Better Learning Podcast

Making Career Education Visible with Mark Shephard

Wed, 09 Sep 2026 04:26:00 +0000

Mark Shepard, K-12 Advisor at BVH Architecture, joins Carla Cummins to share his unusual path from industrial tech teacher to school superintendent to architectural firm advisor. Drawing on his experience leading a transformative CTE center project in Fremont, Nebraska, Mark discusses how listening to local industry and students — not just assumptions from educators — reshaped a district's approach to career and technical education. He dives into the design choices that put CTE on display rather than hidden away, the partnerships with local businesses that created real jobs for students, and why treating career pathways as "a means to a beginning" changes everything about how schools serve students.

Takeaways:

Ask industry, don't assume — Visiting 42 local businesses revealed a mismatch between what schools were teaching and what employers actually needed.
Design CTE to be seen — Moving shop class from a hidden corner to the school's central crossroads, with glass walls, reshaped how students and parents viewed trade careers.
A means to a beginning, not an end — Career pathways should launch students into real opportunity, not serve as a fallback from a four-year degree.
Flexibility future-proofs facilities — Durable, adaptable labs let schools retool programs as local industry needs evolve.
Student success stories build momentum — Real outcomes (jobs, scholarships, even a student following his father into the trades) generate community buy-in for future investment.

About Mark Shepard:

Mark brings over 35 years of experience in education, school planning, and facility development, most recently serving as the Superintendent of Fremont Public Schools. His career highlights include leading a $123M bond initiative (yes, $123 million), which resulted in three new elementary schools and a new Career and Technical Education (CTE) Center. With his extensive experience in education and expertise in CTE design, Mark Shepard brings valuable insights that help us enhance and innovate our programs. As a K-12 Advisor, Mark works closely with us to provide strategic guidance in designing and refining curriculum and educational initiatives that align with current industry trends and educational standards. His deep understanding of K-12 education allows him to help shape our approach to support student success and engagement.

Episode 351 of the Better Learning Podcast

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Facilities Leadership in a Fast-Growing District with Matt Wark

Wed, 02 Sep 2026 04:07:00 +0000

Matt Wark, Chief Facilities Officer for Forsyth County Schools, joins Katie Jubenville to share his unconventional path from a struggling student written off by his own guidance counselor to leading facilities for one of Georgia's fastest-growing, top-performing school districts. Matt discusses how his personal journey through teaching, administration, and district leadership shapes his "houses, not buildings" philosophy of facilities management, and dives into how Forsyth balances explosive growth with maintenance, community trust, and cost. He also shares his perspective as president of the Georgia 4LE chapter on building stronger partnerships between school districts and industry vendors statewide.

Takeaways:

A rough start built a mission — Written off as a student, Matt now champions paths for every kid, not just test scores.
Facilities are "houses," not buildings — Treating schools like home builds pride for students and staff alike.
Growth means balance — Forsyth is shifting from new construction to upgrading older schools' infrastructure.
Patience over quick fixes — Matt's top advice: slow down, since fast decisions create new problems.
Partnerships over contracts — As Georgia 4LE president, Matt connects districts and vendors through trust, not transactions.

About Matt Wark:

He is currently the Chief Facilities Officer for Forsyth County Schools.

He is married to Sara Wark who works in Atlanta at the Coca Cola headquarters and they have 4 children (Mason, Riley, Jordan and Bailey) ages 13,11,10,8.

He is originally from southwest Michigan where he grew up on a family-owned farm.

He moved to Georgia in 2003 and became a teacher with Fulton County Schools. He taught 2nd grade and 5th grade including special education. He then moved to Clarke County Schools to become an assistant principal. There met his wife and relocated back to north Georgia and was an assistant principal with Dawson County Schools. While working in Dawson County he was promoted to the position of Principal. After 5 years of working in Dawson County he was called to become the Director of Assessment and Accountability with Baldwin County School District in Milledgeville, Ga. After 2 years in Baldwin County, he was promoted to Deputy Superintendent. As his family grew and his wife continued traveling to Atlanta daily, he decided to move back to the Atlanta area and what better place than north Ga. Matt successfully became the Chief Facilities Officer for Forsyth County Schools and also lives in Forsyth County where all 4 of his children attend Forsyth County Schools.

In Matt's current role, he oversees all maintenance and facilities needs for the district. This includes all new construction, renovations, modifications, general maintenance, custodial, grounds maintenance as well as, all future planning for the school district. Currently Matt oversees over 9 million square feet which includes 53 total buildings with more schools to come in the near future. Forsyth County is one of the fastest growing counties in the state of Georgia and has no signs of slowing down.

Episode 350 of the Better Learning Podcast

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Making Every Dollar Count with Jennifer Gibb

Wed, 26 Aug 2026 04:12:00 +0000

In this episode, Jeff Kubiak talks with Jennifer Gibb, Vice President of Business Development at Van Pelt Construction Services, about turning school bond measures into real buildings. With 20+ years spanning district facilities leadership, bond program management, and consulting, Jen shares how districts navigate tight budgets, layered funding sources, and community skepticism to deliver modern learning environments. The conversation dives into strategic bond planning, the real story behind fast-tracked construction after a razor-thin bond vote, balancing capital projects against general fund crises, and designing flexible "good bones" buildings that age well.

Takeaways:

Passing a bond is step one, not the finish line. Districts must keep planning and lining up alternative funding even before — and especially after — a bond vote.
Speed protects value. Construction dollars depreciate the moment a bond passes, so moving fast (shovel-ready design/permitting) stretches every dollar further.
Facilities and general fund health are linked. Big bond programs can mask general fund struggles — spending on buildings while cutting staff requires careful, honest community messaging.
"Good bones" beat trendy design. Flexible layouts, strong lighting/HVAC, and updatable furniture keep buildings relevant for decades without full rebuilds.
Radically student-centered means every action counts. From ribbon-cuttings to picking up trash, small contributions to a school environment build pride and lasting impact.

About Jennifer Gibb:

Jennifer Gibb is the Vice President of Business Development at Van Pelt Construction Services, where she helps California PK–14 educational institutions turn vision into reality through strategic planning, funding, and program management. With more than 20 years of experience in educational facilities, Jennifer is passionate about building strong partnerships, creating innovative solutions, and helping communities deliver exceptional learning environments. A recognized leader in the education facilities industry, she is equally committed to mentoring others, giving back to her community, and leading with purpose. Outside of work, Jennifer is a wife, a proud mom of two, and an advocate for making a lasting difference for students and the communities they serve.

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Turning Campuses into Learning Tools with Orin Williams

Wed, 19 Aug 2026 04:02:00 +0000

Jeff Kubiak sits down with Orin Williams, Assistant Superintendent of Facilities, Planning, and Development at Riverside Unified School District, to unpack a 33-year career in school facilities planning. Orin traces his path from architecture school at Cal Poly Pomona through private practice into public education facilities, sharing how his design background shapes his advocacy for thoughtful, human-centered school environments. The conversation covers turning aging campuses into cohesive learning spaces, building community trust around bond projects, balancing tight budgets against big ambitions, and weaving "gamified" learning (like the fractions-based basketball game "Fraction Ball") directly into campus design. Orin also reflects on an unplanned detour into maintenance leadership, the emotional weight communities carry around legacy schools, and what keeps him hopeful about the future of public education.

Takeaways:

Great architecture needs a great client. Districts get better schools when they advocate for design excellence, not just function.
Trust comes from transparency. Honest communication turns skeptics into supporters — don't overpromise.
Every space can teach. Gamified hallways, playgrounds, and murals turn campuses into learning tools.
Change is emotional. Treat community pushback like grief — validate feelings before presenting facts.
Cross-training builds better leaders. Experience across design, construction, and maintenance fosters collaboration over rivalry.

About Orin Williams:

With more than 33 years of experience dedicated to public education via capital facilities planning, construction, and maintenance, Orin Williams has led several major capital bond programs totaling over $2.9 billion. Currently, Orin serves as Assistant Superintendent, Facilities, Planning & Development for the Riverside Unified School District - the 15th largest school district in California. Previously serving for 8 years as Assistant Superintendent, Facilities & Governmental Relations for the Santa Ana Unified School District, Mr. Williams' span of responsibility included leading the Planning & Design, Construction, and Maintenance & Operations departments with teams totaling over 260. Similarly, Orin serving for over 4 years as Associate Vice Chancellor, Facilities, Planning & Development for the Riverside Community College District, Orin led a $800 million bond program developing numerous projects at the District's three colleges and various education centers. Additionally, Mr. Williams served the Riverside Unified School District twice previously as Director of Facilities, and later as Director of M&O for a total of over 17 years. Lastly, Orin served as Facilities Planner for the Pomona Unified School District for 2 years.

Williams holds a Bachelor of Architecture from the California State Polytechnic University, Pomona, was an Engineering major at U.C. Riverside, and holds numerous professional certifications. Orin served as President of the Southern California Chapter and member of the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE), and member of Coalition for Adequate School Housing (CASH), and School Energy Coalition (SEC), and serves as a workshop panel member as well as served on various committees within these educational facility-focused organizations. In 2022, Orin received the California Association of Latino Superintendents and Administrators (CALSA) State Classified Employee of the Year award.

Episode 348 of the Better Learning Podcast

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Inside Rock Hill's $336M Vision for Safer, Smarter Schools with Andrew Jones

Wed, 12 Aug 2026 04:25:00 +0000

In this episode, Matt Rogers sits down with Andrew Jones, Executive Director for Safety and Emergency Management at Rock Hill School District (South Carolina), to explore how safety and design intersect in modern school construction. Andrew shares his winding path from youth ministry to law enforcement, teaching, and school administration before landing in his current role. The conversation dives deep into the district's new Sunset Park Elementary School project — a $336 million, 10-year facilities initiative — covering CPTED (Crime Prevention Through Environmental Design), hardwired access control, AI-powered cameras, generator-backed security systems, and pod-style learning layouts. Andrew emphasizes collaborative decision-making, visiting other campuses, and balancing beautiful, light-filled learning environments with rigorous safety standards. He closes with his guiding philosophy: prepare and plan rather than simply hope and pray, all in service of keeping students and staff safe.

Takeaways:

Safety is built in from day one, not added later.
School security now covers access control, cameras, communications, and weather alerts.
Critical systems run on backup power to stay functional during outages.
Campus tours and community input shaped the new pod-style school design.
Proven, practical solutions beat flashy tech — "prep and plan," not "hope and pray."

Episode 347 of the Better Learning Podcast

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Student-Centered Leadership in a Small District with Dr. Amy Alzina

Wed, 05 Aug 2026 04:57:00 +0000

In this episode, Jeff Kubiak talks with Dr. Amy Alzina, superintendent of Cold Spring School District, about running a high-performing small school district in Santa Barbara County. They cover the mission of the Small School Districts Association, building genuine student connection beyond the classroom, designing flexible and indoor/outdoor learning spaces, funding strategies and community trust, and career advice for aspiring school business officials. The conversation closes on emerging school finance trends, concerns over new leave legislation's impact on students, and cautious optimism about AI's role in personalized education.

Takeaways:

Small districts, big impact: SSDA represents 60% of California's school districts, advocating for local control and equitable funding for schools with 2,500 students or fewer.
Every student needs three advocates: Educators should intentionally connect with students outside their own classroom, not just their assigned group.
Flexible spaces drive engagement: Barn doors, couches, wobble seats, and outdoor courtyards let students choose how and where they learn best.
Trust and transparency fuel community investment: Strong test scores, low absenteeism, and visible results (like plaques for donors) build the community support that funds specialist programs.
New leave policy risks instructional continuity: The 14-week pregnancy leave combined with a 30-day cap on long-term subs could mean a revolving door of teachers for young students learning foundational skills like reading.

About Dr. Amy Alzina:

Dr. Amy Alzina is a trailblazer in TK–12 education and a leading voice in the integration of artificial intelligence across California school systems. As the Chair of ACSA's Artificial Intelligence Task Force and a board member for both the Association of California School Administrators (ACSA) and the Small School Districts' Association (SSDA), Dr. Alzina plays a pivotal role in shaping statewide AI policy and practice as chair of the SSDA Legislative and Policy Committee.

In addition to serving as Superintendent of Cold Spring School District, one of the top academically performing school districts in the state of California, Dr. Alzina supports districts statewide in implementing AI tools that increase efficiency, personalize learning, and enhance productivity. Under her leadership, Cold Spring has earned a reputation not only for excellence in innovation but also for maintaining the highest standards in student achievement.

Prior to her current role, Dr. Alzina served in Santa Barbara Unified School District as Assistant Superintendent of Elementary Education and as Principal of Adams Elementary School, an ESSA Distinguished School recognized as one of the Top 100 Title I Schools in the nation. Her leadership consistently reflects a commitment to equity, excellence, and future-ready learning

Episode 346 of the Better Learning Podcast

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Designing a Second Home for Students with Learning Differences with Shara Bumgarner & Janann Pittman

Wed, 29 Jul 2026 04:16:00 +0000

In this episode, host Matt Rogers and co-host Dr. Brian McCraw talk with Shara Bumgarner, cofounder of Houston's Joy School, and architect Janann Pittman of Jackson & Ryan Architects about creating a K-8 school built for kids with learning differences. From the school's humble start with four students in 1997 to its thoughtfully designed campus today, Shara and Janann unpack how intentional design - down to door handles and bathroom stalls - can turn a school into a true second home. They dig into individualized instruction, the "it depends" philosophy, and why joy, not just remediation, should be at the heart of every learning space.

Takeaways:

No one-size-fits-all - Kids are grouped by specific learning needs, not grade level or diagnosis.
Design follows philosophy - Spaces are built around flexibility and the school's culture, not just function.
Details matter - Even door handles and toilet flushes were chosen to ease student anxiety.
Safety enables learning - An anxious brain can't learn, so comfort comes first for kids and parents alike.
Joy beats survival - Disco balls and dance parties aren't extras - they're core to helping kids truly thrive.

About Shara Bumgarner:

Shara Bumgarner co-founded The Joy School in 1997 and has been our Head of School since 2002. Shara's inspiration for starting The Joy School stemmed from witnessing bright students with learning differences and disabilities slip through the cracks in public school because of a lack of understanding of such students. Shara is committed to providing the most optimal, joyful environment for students and teachers with an emphasis on embracing individual differences. Starting The Joy School changed her life as an educator, and she hopes to have that same impact on each student, parent and teacher at the School. Outside of school, Shara focuses on her family, which includes her supportive husband and three daughters.

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About Janann Pittman, AIA:

For over 35 years, since her first K-12 and higher education projects, Janann has been passionate about institutional and educational architecture that reinforces and expands communities, and impacts children of all ages.

As a Principal with Jackson & Ryan Architects, Janann is licensed in multiple states, with education projects from Pennsylvania to Texas. Janann seeks to understand her unique clients and their communities, so her designs reflect them and serve them in highly personal ways.

Janann comes from a family of educators and has served on numerous PTO boards and committees for her sons' schools, on the Rice University Alumni Board, and was a founding board member of Books Between Kids.

While Janann loved her time at Rice University, she is most enthusiastic about her middle school years at Shoreham-Wading River Middle School. Named a Blue Ribbon School the first year the award was given, Janann loved the fabulous arts and community service programs, and the focus on interdisciplinary projects, in smaller neighborhood communities. And, the amazing school even had goats!

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Learning by Region at A4LE Georgia

Wed, 22 Jul 2026 16:50:00 +0000

In this episode, host Katie Jubenville brings listeners conversations from the A4LE Georgia Chapter Conference on Jekyll Island. Guests explore what "Radically Student Centered™" design truly means, the everyday details students notice that adults overlook, partnerships between design firms and educators, and creative problem-solving during construction — plus some fun local picks for how they'd spend a day on Jekyll Island.

Our guests, in order of appearnace:

Namrata Dani, AIA:

Corgan

Architect

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Jill Hackett:

Turner & Townsend Heery

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Jesse Frasier:

Turner & Townsend Heery

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Carissa Shrock Oyedele, AIA, NCIDQ, LEED AP BDC:

Corgan

Associate Principal, Senior Project Manager & Architect

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Heli Shah:

CDH Partners, Inc.

Project Director

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Jamie B. Case:

CDH Partners, Inc.

Principal (Jamie) & Project Director (Heli)

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Dawn Hill:

Elbert County School District

Special Education Administrative Assistant

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Learning by Region at A4LE Northeast

Wed, 22 Jul 2026 04:15:00 +0000

This episode comes from the A4LE Northeast Regional Conference in Rochester, New York, hosted by Jessica Westerduin. Guests discuss indicators of a successful school building, what it would mean to walk into their designs 20 years from now, the value of stakeholder collaboration, the role of flexible furniture and adaptability, and the challenges school leaders face guiding their communities through transitions and long-term visioning.

Our special guests, in order of appearance:

Lemuer Perez M.A. ED.:

University Academy Charter High School

Educational Consultant

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Matthew Gallerani, AIA:

GWWO Architects

Architect

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Julie Spence, AIA, ALEP:

Lavallee Brensinger Architects

Educational Planner

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Elizabeth Geldres AIA, PMP, LEED AP, NOMA:

Stantec

Architect, Senior Project Manager, and K-12 Studio Leader

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Jeremy Dwyer, AIA:

CannonDesign

Vice President

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Emily Czarnecki:

JCJ Architecture

Design Principal

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Jennifer Grafton, AIA, ALEP & Melissa Martin:

SCHRADERGROUP (Jennifer) & New Holland Elementary School (Melissa)

PA PK-12 Market Segment Leader (Jennifer) & Principal (Melissa)

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Episode 343 of the Better Learning Podcast

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Learning by Region at A4LE Midwest Great Lakes

Wed, 22 Jul 2026 04:09:00 +0000

This episode, hosted by Matt Rogers and Katie Jubenville, features conversations from the A4LE Midwest Great Lakes Regional Conference in St. Louis. Guests compare favorite landmarks to the Gateway Arch, then dig into what "radically student-centered" design means, sharing stories about maximizing impact beyond simple building replacement, engaging students and communities in the design process, and what separates schools that merely function from those that truly transform their communities.

Our guests, in order of appearance:

Josh Chism, PE, CEM:

Capital AE

President

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Nicole Esser Dryden:

Plunkett Raysich Architects, LLP

Senior Associate

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Philip Riedel, AIA:

NAC Architecture

Principal, PK-12 Sector Leader

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Brad Erwin:

Paragon Architecture

President

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Jeff Vandel:

North Kansas City Schools

Executive Director of Facilities

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Roger Bearup:

Grandville Public Schools

Superintendent

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Nicholas Kent:

Plunkett Raysich Architects, LLP

Partner

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Dr. Stephanie Loane:

CSO Architects

Senior Associate

Brenton C. Hite, AIA:

CSO Architects

Principal (Brenton) & Senior Associate (Stephanie)

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Episode 342 of the Better Learning Podcast

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Learning by Region at A4LE Southern

Wed, 22 Jul 2026 04:07:00 +0000

This episode features conversations recorded at the A4LE Southern Regional Conference in Austin, Texas, hosted by Dr. Brian McCraw and Nick Marmolejo. Guests dig into themes like community-driven design processes, trauma-informed design, furniture and flexible learning spaces, the overuse of "learning stairs," strong architect-educator partnerships, and what truly makes a school thrive versus merely function.

Our guests, in order of appearance:

Jody Sergi, AIA, LEED AP:

Kirksey Architecture

Partner and Director, PK-12 Practice

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Cody Boyd, AIA:

PBK

Senior Principal

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Olivia Graf:

Architecture for Education

Partner / Design Principal

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Katie Becker:

JLG Architects

Architect and K12 Planner

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Gary Armbruster, FAIA, ALEP:

MA+ Architecture, L.L.C.

Owner

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Easy Foster, RTSBA, FAIC, CPC, LEED AP:

Conroe Independent School District

Executive Director Planning & Construction

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Brad Hunt:

JLG Architects

K–12 Strategy & Partnerships

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Sloan McLain:

Austin Independent School District

Administrative Supervisor of Learning Space Integration

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Episode 341 of the Better Learning Podcast

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Learning by Region at A4LE Southeast

Wed, 22 Jul 2026 04:00:00 +0000

This episode, hosted by Katie Jubenville, takes listeners on the road to the A4LE Southeast Regional Conference, featuring conversations with architects, educators, and facility planners about creating better learning environments. Guests discuss what it means to be "radically student-centered," the messages school buildings send to students and teachers, exciting trends in school design, and how to elevate teacher practice and gauge whether a school is thriving.

Our guests, in order of appearance:

Paulette Myers:

McMillan Pazdan Smith Architecture

Architect

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Matthew Pierzchala, AIA, NCARB, ALEP, WELL AP:

Larson Design Group

Client Leader | Senior Architect | Education Planner

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Dr. Burke Royster:

Greenville County Schools

Superintendent

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Robert Oetting:

Beaufort County School District

Chief Operations Officer

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Sophia Tarkhan AIA, NOMA, LEED AP, Fitwel Ambassador & Kate Edwards, AIA, NCARB:

Cooper Carry

Project Architects

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Joseph Campbell, MS:

Charleston County School District

Construction Procurement Supervisor

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Aimee Eckmann, FAIA:

Perkins&Will

Firmwide K-12 Practice Leader

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AI, Agency & the Future of Education with Dr. Sabba Quidwai

Wed, 15 Jul 2026 04:33:00 +0000

In this episode, Dr. Sabba Quidwai, CEO of Designing Schools, joins the Better Learning Podcast to explore how educators, students, and communities can navigate AI with hope instead of fear. Drawing on her own path from history teacher to Apple to education consultant, she shares how districts like Roseville Joint Union High School District are bringing students, staff, and community members together to co-design AI-era graduate profiles — and why courageous leadership, shared culture, and storytelling matter more than any specific technology.

Takeaways:

Hope is a teachable skill, not just a feeling — and it's the root of agency.
Design with people, not for them — Roseville built a graduate profile in just three sessions by including students, staff, and community.
Culture and story precede innovation — courageous leadership matters more than any specific tool.
Students need shared context, not just a voice, or they'll default to asking for rigid rules.
Local business partnerships make AI literacy real and practical without big budgets.

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Episode 339 of the Better Learning Podcast

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Designing Schools Kids Are Proud Of with Amanda Vottis

Wed, 08 Jul 2026 04:09:00 +0000

In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Jessica Westerduin talks with Amanda Vottis, an architectural designer at Mosaic Architects with over 12 years of experience in K-12 educational design. Amanda shares her winding path into school architecture, her philosophy of "radically student-centered" design, and a deep dive into the multi-year Saratoga Springs School District project — a "legacy" renovation initiative built on an educational plan shaped by community input, teacher feedback, and student voice. The conversation explores how thoughtful design (learning stairs, breakout spaces, informal student areas) can transform how kids feel about school, and why understanding student behavior and needs matters more than just filling classroom walls.

Takeaways:

Design starts with people, not walls. Instead of asking "what does this classroom need," Amanda asks "what do your students need to be successful" — shifting conversations from storage and outlets to real student experience.
Community alignment sustains long-term projects. Saratoga Springs' educational plan, built through summits, surveys, and teacher/student input, has guided nearly a decade of phased renovations back to a shared vision.
Dream big before scaling back. Exposing districts to ambitious ideas (like learning stairs and dedicated informal spaces) helps them aim higher instead of defaulting to "practical" but uninspired designs.
Every student learns differently — design should reflect that. Just as teachers and coaches adapt to different learning styles, school spaces need variety to support how each student thrives.
Ownership and pride change student behavior. When students feel a space belongs to them, they take care of it and use it — evidenced by the pride shown in Saratoga's new fitness center and cafeteria.

About Amanda Vottis:

Amanda is an Architectural Designer and Accredited Learning Environment Planner with Mosaic Associates Architects. With over a decade of experience, Amanda specializes in designing innovative learning environments for K-12 public schools, colleges, and universities in New York. Collaborating with clients from initial project conception through completion of construction, Amanda enjoys helping clients design projects that align with their unique educational goals and community needs.

Amanda volunteers for the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE) New York Chapter Board, serving as past President, and co-captain for Mosaic's CANstruction team.

Episode 338 of the Better Learning Podcast

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Reimagining School Operations with Dr. Heather Sánchez

Wed, 01 Jul 2026 04:05:00 +0000

In this episode, Jeff Kubiak sits down with Dr. Heather Sánchez, Deputy Superintendent of the Bellevue School District in Washington, to explore what it looks like to lead a large public school district from both the instructional and operational sides of the house. Drawing on 26 years in education — from a border-town middle school teacher in New Mexico to overseeing HR, finance, facilities, transportation, and more — Dr. Sánchez shares how Bellevue is centering community voice in everything from strategic planning to building design, and why the most transformative ideas often start with a simple "what if?"

Takeaways:

Walk both sides of the house. Coming from instruction into operations gives Dr. Sánchez a rare ability to connect learning directly to logistics.
Listen before you build. The best designs — buildings, programs, strategic plans — start with community voice, not a blueprint.
Systemize the fires so you can dream. Clear crisis protocols free up the mental space leaders need for long-term vision.
Small ideas, big impact. The Bellevue Welcome Center started with one hallway conversation. Transformation often does.
The students are already ahead of us. They're bolder, more creative, and more advocacy-minded than ever. Follow their lead.

About Dr. Heather Sánchez:

Dr. Heather J. Sánchez is a high-impact and systems-focused K–12 executive known for delivering measurable academic results while leading complex organizations with precision, clarity, and vision. With more than 20 years of experience leading high-performing school systems, she strengthens academic outcomes, ensures operational excellence, and expands access to innovative learning opportunities. In her role as Deputy Superintendent, she provides executive leadership across district operations, human resources, and finance and business services, aligning organizational strategy, talent, and resources to deliver on the district's strategic plan and drive measurable results for students.

Dr. Sánchez oversees a comprehensive portfolio that includes financial stewardship, human capital strategy, facilities and capital programs, student services, and enterprise operations. She is recognized for her ability to integrate long-range planning, fiscal discipline, and organizational effectiveness with a clear focus on teaching and learning. Her leadership ensures that budgets, staffing models, and operational systems are tightly aligned to district priorities, enabling schools to deliver high-quality instruction and strong student outcomes.

Previously serving as Chief of Schools and Chief Operating Officer, Dr. Sánchez led districtwide improvement efforts that resulted in measurable gains in early literacy and mathematics, while strengthening instructional coherence and expanding access to accelerated learning, dual language programs, STEM opportunities, and student choice. She has a strong track record of advancing innovation and ensuring systems evolve to meet the diverse needs and aspirations of students and families.

Across leadership roles in Washington, Colorado, and New Mexico, Dr. Sánchez brings a rare combination of financial acumen, business-minded leadership, and deep educational expertise. She has served at every level of the PK–12 system, including classroom teacher, instructional coach, school principal, Director of Teaching and Learning and Accelerated Programs, Executive Director of Schools, Chief of Schools, Chief Operating Officer, and now Deputy Superintendent, gaining experience across elementary, middle, high school, and district systems levels. Grounded in this comprehensive background, she maintains a strong commitment to students, families, and educators, prioritizing clarity, communication, and a supportive, high-expectations culture. She is known for building trust with boards and communities, navigating complex challenges with sound judgment, and delivering results through disciplined execution.

Dr. Sánchez holds an Ed.D. in Educational Leadership and Policy, a Master's degree in Curriculum and Instruction and Educational Leadership, superintendent certification, and principal and teacher certifications. She has been nationally recognized through Chiefs for Change (Future Chiefs) and Women Leading Ed (Emerging State Executives). Her honors include the Washington Association of School Administrators Doyle E. Winter Excellence in Leadership Award and the Washington State School Achievement Award.

Originally from New Mexico, Dr. Sánchez is committed to academic excellence, responsible governance, and future-ready systems that prepare every student for success in college, career, and life.

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Lessons From 27 Years of Building Better Schools with Larry Levato

Wed, 24 Jun 2026 09:00:00 +0000

Mark Barga talks with Larry Levato, veteran educational architect at Crabtree, Rohrbaugh & Associates, about what it really takes to design schools that serve students, teachers, and communities alike — and why the process matters as much as the product.

Takeaways:

Design for teachers too. Educators spend more time in school buildings than students. Great design treats teaching as a craft that deserves a professional environment.
Listen before you design. Client relationships and deep listening are the foundation of every successful project — not design vision alone.
Slow down to get it right. Larry's biggest "risk" was pushing back a project timeline. When COVID hit mid-construction, that decision saved the project.
Schools can lead change, not just reflect it. Even traditional communities can be guided toward more innovative learning environments when trust is built over time.
Legacy is about people, not buildings. Larry measures success by how much he's elevated the architects, clients, and educators around him — not by square footage or awards.

About Larry Levato:

Earning a Bachelor of Architecture and Fine Arts from Rhode Island School of Design in 1988, Larry has worked with K-12 educational clients over the course of his 34 year career. He joined Crabtree, Rohrbaugh & Associates in 2010 and continues to work with our K-12 educational clients throughout Maryland and Pennsylvania. Larry is the current A4LE President-elect, appointing committee positions and focusing on the creation of a stellar conference which include host city selection, school building tours and keynote speakers as well as conference theme. As Principal, he focuses on overall firm management as well as collaboration with project managers in establishing project standards and Best Practices as well as advising on educational programming and planning which are implemented throughout the architectural studio.

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Building a Middle School that Supports Student Learning with James Liebman

Wed, 17 Jun 2026 14:55:00 +0000

In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Jessica Westerduin sits down with James Liebman, senior associate at HMFH Architects, to explore how thoughtful school design can elevate student wellbeing, foster belonging, and support great teaching. Drawing on 30 years in architecture — from higher education to K–12 — James shares how the physical environment either supports or hinders learning, and how architects can create spaces that truly center students. Using the Maria Weston Chapman Middle School in Weymouth, Massachusetts as a case study, James walks through the design decisions that shaped one of the largest middle schools in the state into a place where students feel seen, supported, and inspired.

Takeaways:

Student-centered design starts with listening. Every design decision — from natural light to furniture flexibility — should trace back to how students will actually use and experience the space. Architects must ask questions, sit with uncertainty, and let what they hear shape the design.
Break large schools into smaller communities. The "concentric rings of support" strategy used at Maria Weston Chapman Middle School shows how architecture can combat the anxiety of scale by creating nested communities — from a team of ~100 students up to a grade, and then the whole school.
Early visioning documents anchor every future decision. A district-wide educational plan created at the start of the process serves as a reference point throughout design, ensuring that smaller decisions continue to reinforce the bigger goals — and giving districts a durable consensus to build on.
Architecture supports behavior; it doesn't create it. Great teaching and learning are already happening. Well-designed spaces — with good acoustics, natural light, adaptable technology, and flexible furniture — don't manufacture engagement, they remove barriers to it.
Adaptability and budget are not opposites. Long-lasting schools require flexible spaces, but that doesn't mean endless square footage. Smart sequencing of spaces, movable furniture, and robust materials can create adaptable environments without exceeding budgets or losing funding votes.

About James Liebman:

James Liebman is a Senior Associate at HMFH Architects, a women-owned architecture firm nationally recognized for innovative, sustainable, and student-centered school design. With 29 years of experience, James skillfully balances stakeholder input, public budgets, and accelerated schedules to deliver K-12 schools that enhance student well-being and reflect the communities they serve.

As Project Manager for the LEED Gold-certified Chapman Middle School, he led design and construction administration for this 1,470-student facility, the largest middle school in Massachusetts. James earned his Bachelor of Science in Architecture from the University of Virginia and his Master of Architecture from the University of Pennsylvania.

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One Community's Fight to Save Their School with Dr. Tim Matlack, Phil Leinbach & Ken Bonkoski

Wed, 10 Jun 2026 05:02:00 +0000

In this episode of the Better Learning Podcast, host Mark Barga sits down with Dr. Tim Matlack (superintendent), Ken Bonkoski (director of facilities), and Phil Leinbach (architect, EM Architects) to tell the story of Antietam School District's response to a catastrophic flash flood on July 9, 2023 — and how a small, resource-limited district turned disaster into opportunity.

Episode Takeaways:

Crisis demands rapid, creative pivoting. When floodwaters destroyed 110,000 sq. ft. of educational space housing grades 7-12 and the district office — with FEMA providing zero financial assistance — the team had to improvise immediately. Students were relocated to a church, a neighboring elementary building, and eventually modular units, all while school opened on time that fall.
Institutional trust is the foundation of effective school construction. With a decades-long relationship between the district and EM Architects, the team could move fast without losing alignment. Phil's advice: don't discard your architect like swapping doctors — that institutional knowledge of budgets, building history, and community context is irreplaceable.
Flood-resilient design is possible, not just theoretical. The new Stony Creek Elementary is being built eight feet above the breach point of the 2023 flood, with solid creek-facing walls, storm water infrastructure, and a simplified rectangular footprint — giving the community genuine confidence without making promises nobody can guarantee.
A strong school culture is built on shared purpose, not just shared hardship. Staff, neighboring districts (Exeter SD), community volunteers, and the National Guard all rallied around the district. Tim credits the faculty's family-like culture — which predates the flood — as the reason the district bent but didn't break.
Flexibility is the greatest ability in school design and leadership. Phil's maxim: "Be like Gumby — bend, don't break." Ken's approach: don't get overwhelmed by the mountain in front of you; prioritize logistically, stay calm (mostly), own your mistakes, and keep moving. Tim's anchor: shared values around student outcomes are what let a team push through frustration and disagreement.

About Dr. Tim Matlack:

It was a singular honor for Dr. Timothy A. Matlack to rejoin the Mounts community in the role of Superintendent. From 2007-2022, he was fortunate enough to serve in a number of roles within the Antietam School District.

For ten years, Dr. Matlack taught at the Middle-Senior High School in the Language Arts Department. For the next five years, he was given the opportunity to be an Assistant Principal K-12, Athletic Director and Curriculum Supervisor. In that time, he came to understand Antietam for the unique, supportive and tenacious community that it is.

From 2022-2024, while he was the Director of Teaching and Learning at Tulpehocken Area School District, he thought often of Antietam and leapt at the opportunity to return as the Superintendent.

About Ken Bonkoski:

Ken Bonkoski is a facilities and maintenance professional based in Reading, Pennsylvania, known for his dedicated service in public education. He serves as the Facilities Manager for the Antietam School District, where he oversees building operations and ensures a safe, functional environment for students and staff.

In addition to his work in education, Bonkoski is the owner of KB Construction, a company he founded in 1996. Through decades of hands-on experience, he has built a reputation for quality craftsmanship, reliability, and attention to detail across a wide range of construction and maintenance projects.

Bonkoski gained wider recognition after being selected as a 2026 Pennsylvania RISE (Recognizing Inspiring School Employees) Award honoree, a distinction that highlights non-teaching school staff who make exceptional contributions to their communities.

Colleagues and community members praise his strong work ethic and commitment. He is known for going beyond his standard responsibilities—often arriving early and staying late—to keep school facilities running smoothly and to support both students and staff.

About Phil Leinbach:

Philip began his career at AEM Architects in 1991 as a graduate architect and received his PA registration in 1994. He joined ownership of the firm in 2000 and ascended to President in 2012.

Philip's background is in construction having worked for the family construction company prior to attending college. For over 35 years, his architectural philosophy has centered around the concept that the greatest design is worthless if it cannot be constructed effectively and efficiently by the skilled contractors in the local marketplace. He is a hands-on professional focused on creating programmatic and operational value for his clients and providing responsive construction administration that is critical to the success of all projects.

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Designing Spaces That Last Starts With Knowing Your Why with Candice Leinneweber

Wed, 03 Jun 2026 16:28:00 +0000

In this episode, Matt Rogers sits down with Candice Leinneweber, Director of Design at MA+ Architecture and 2025 EdMarket NextGen Award winner, for a wide-ranging conversation about what it takes to design schools that truly serve students. Candice shares her winding path — from a family bakery in San Diego, to an accounting class that sent her running toward architecture, to teaching college courses for seven years before becoming a licensed architect. The conversation digs into how her dual training in architecture and interior design shapes her approach to K-12 spaces, what it really means to design for security without creating a prison-like atmosphere, and the exciting Oklahoma Aviation Academy project currently under construction in Norman. Candice also shares her work chairing an AIA committee building a framework to expose K-12 students to careers in architecture and design.

Takeaways:

Design with the "why" first. Candice's core approach — whether working with a client, a contractor, or a student — is to keep asking why until you understand the real goal. That clarity is what separates a decision that holds up 20 years from one that just looks good on day one.
Security and joy aren't opposites. A recurring challenge in K-12 design today is creating spaces that feel open, welcoming, and engaging while also meeting rigorous safety requirements. Candice describes threading that needle on the Oklahoma Aviation Academy by designing for visibility, hiding places in emergencies, and an inviting open atmosphere simultaneously.
Meet students where they are. Whether through student surveys, post-occupancy research, or thoughtful space programming, truly student-centered design means designing for the full spectrum of learners — the quiet kid, the kinesthetic learner, the future engineer, and everyone in between.
Flexibility is the best hedge against an uncertain future. Rather than betting on what education will look like in 30 years, Candice designs spaces that can be rearranged, reprogrammed, and adapted — so a learning stair can be a tour stop, a study group, and a pickup class depending on the day.
Exposure is everything. Candice's AIA committee work is rooted in her own experience: she didn't discover architecture until late in college because she simply didn't know it was attainable. Creating pathways for students to shadow architects, visit job sites, and see what the field actually looks like can change the trajectory of a career.

About Candice Leinneweber:

Candice Leinneweber serves as Director of Design, integrating mentorship and leadership into the firm's design culture while guiding innovative K–12 education projects. She champions collaborative engagement with school stakeholders to deliver thoughtful, user-centered environments that support learning and community impact. Candice also chairs a K–12 architecture awareness initiative with The American Institute of Architects, partnering with local school districts to expand access to architecture and engineering careers through tours, site visits, and curriculum integration.

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The Invisible Work That Changes Everything with Katie Hylton

Wed, 27 May 2026 04:01:00 +0000

Jeff Kubiak sits down with Katie Hylton, Director of Business Support Services for San Bernardino County Superintendent of Schools and newly elected CASBO president. Katie shares her unexpected journey from animal science major to school business leader — starting as a part-time attendance clerk and warehouse worker in Barstow, all the way to overseeing operations for a county office of education. The conversation explores how behind-the-scenes operational work directly impacts student learning, the importance of connecting business services staff to the "why" behind their work, and what it truly means to build radically student-centered learning environments.

Takeaways

The invisible work matters. Clean, safe, well-maintained facilities directly affect student focus, comfort, and academic success — even if no one notices when it's done right.
Connect your team to the why. Katie makes it a priority to get operations staff out to school sites so they can see the students they're serving. Whether it's delivering adaptive equipment or volunteering at a reading rally, that human connection transforms how people show up for their work.
Mentorship opens doors. A warehouse mentor who taught Katie to drive a forklift became the reason she landed her first full-time job. Find your people, ask questions, and build your network — especially through organizations like CASBO.
Be creative with resources. Tighter budgets require forward thinking. COVID funding was an opportunity to invest in long-overdue infrastructure like touchless fixtures and keyless entry — small changes with lasting impact.
Ask students what they need. Flexible furniture, natural light, wellness spaces, and collaborative areas aren't just trends — they reflect what students actually need to thrive. Including student voice in planning builds both better spaces and student pride.

About Katie Hylton:

Katie Hylton is a seasoned education business leader with over three decades of experience in K–12 operations, procurement, and facilities management. As Director of Business Support Services for the San Bernardino County Superintendent of Schools, she oversees vital operational and fiscal functions supporting schools across the region. A longtime CASH and CASBO member, Katie is known for her collaborative leadership and passion for sharing knowledge as a presenter and speaker. A lifelong learner, she enjoys leadership programs that foster growth and reflect her dedication to strengthening educational communities.

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Building a School with Input From Everyone with Regan Shields Ives and Amy Vachon

Wed, 20 May 2026 04:54:00 +0000

In this episode, host Jessica Westerduin sits down with Regan Shields Ives, principal and studio leader at Finegold Alexander Architects, and Amy Vachon, principal at Gladstone Elementary School in Cranston, Rhode Island. Together, they explore how deep collaboration between educators, students, and architects shaped the design of Gladstone's new school building — one built around project-based learning, flexible spaces, and student voice. From visioning sessions with kids to co-teaching trials and curiosity centers, this conversation is a masterclass in what it looks like to truly put students at the center of every decision.

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Putting Students at the Center of Every Dollar with Yuri Calderon - CASBO 2026

Wed, 13 May 2026 04:51:00 +0000

In this episode, Yuri Calderon, Assistant Superintendent of Business Services at Orange Unified School District, discusses what it truly means to lead with students at the center — even from the business office. Yuri shares his philosophy of removing the "business hat" and instead focusing on aligning every dollar and resource as close to the classroom as possible. He reflects on lessons learned across his career in Santa Barbara, small and rural districts, and now Orange Unified, making a compelling case for why small districts are often the most innovative. Yuri also dives into the power of replicating and iterating on great ideas, what a thriving school actually looks like when you walk through the doors, how to align vendor and architect partnerships around what matters most for kids, and why reading — not AI summaries — remains his go-to tool for continuous learning.

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Yuri serves as the Assistant Superintendent of Business Services for Orange Unified School District, leading all financial and operational functions for a 42-school system with an annual budget exceeding $400 million. He oversees budget development, multi-year financial planning, and fiscal strategy to maintain long-term structural stability in a complex public funding environment.

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Episode 330 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Matters Most in School Leadership with Dr. Todd Cutler - CASBO 2026

Wed, 13 May 2026 04:46:00 +0000

In this episode, Dr. Todd Cutler, Superintendent of Lake Tahoe Unified School District, discusses what it truly means to build schools that transform communities. He shares his belief that education shapes the future of entire communities, not just individual students, and reflects on his journey through three superintendencies to find what matters most in school leadership. Dr. Cutler highlights the district's innovative career tech education programs, dual enrollment partnerships with Lake Tahoe Community College, and a recently passed bond focused on creating flexible, engaging learning environments. He also opens up about the importance of high expectations paired with genuine care, the power of student voice in shaping classroom design, and why celebrating wins is something education doesn't do nearly enough.

About Dr. Todd Cutler:

Dr. Todd Cutler became the Superintendent of Lake Tahoe Unified School District on July 1, 2020. He came to South Lake Tahoe from Winters Joint Unified School District where he served for five years as the Superintendent.

Dr. Cutler grew up on the southeast shore of Lake Tahoe and attended Zephyr Cove Elementary School, Kingsbury Middle School and is a graduate of George Whittell High School. After high school graduation he attended New Mexico State University where he was an Academic All-American Football player. He received his B.S. degree in Secondary Education from NMSU. Todd went on to earn his Masters in Education Administration from the University of Phoenix, and lastly earned his Doctorate degree in Educational Leadership from Nova Southeastern University.

Dr. Cutler began his career in education teaching and coaching at both the middle school and high school levels in Gardnerville, Nevada. He began his school administration career in 1998 and has served in an array of positions. He has been a Dean of Students, Assistant Principal, Principal, School Improvement Analyst, Administrative Coach, Deputy Superintendent, and Superintendent. Along with Winters, Dr. Cutler has served as Superintendent of the Lassen Union High School District and Johnstonville Elementary School District in Susanville, CA.

Along with Dr. Cutler's educational and professional experience, he has demonstrated a commitment to be involved with the communities he has lived and worked. Examples include serving as the Mayor of Fernley, Nevada and volunteering as a site director for Inner City Games in Las Vegas, Nevada. He was a member of Rotary and a member of the Rocklin Education Excellence Foundation.

Todd has a philosophy of collaborative leadership. He understands the importance of engaging all stakeholders in the education process. He is committed to doing what is best for students and has a proven track record of improved student achievement under his service.

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Episode 329 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with David Marshall – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 15:30:00 +0000

In this episode, David Marshall, CSC Contract, Grant and Operations Manager for the Center for Schools and Communities — a division of the Central Susquehanna Intermediate Unit based in the Harrisburg area — brings a unique vantage point to the conversation: an engineering background, 16 years in corporate America, 12 years as a facilities director, and now seven years as a business manager. That combination of technical, operational, and financial experience shapes everything about how he approaches his work.

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Episode 326 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Maureen Oakley – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 15:30:00 +0000

In this episode, Maureen Oakley, a school business professional at Pottstown School District in Southeastern Pennsylvania, brings a refreshingly candid and relatable voice to the conversation about what it's like to build a career in school finance — and why the field is at a critical inflection point. A South Jersey native and lifelong Philly sports fan, Maureen stumbled into school business the way many do: looking for a job with a pension, landing in payroll, and discovering that working close to kids in a mission-driven environment was far more satisfying than corporate accounting.

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Episode 327 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Nicholas Erickson – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 05:03:00 +0000

In this episode, Nicholas Erickson, Director of Technology Services at Waynesboro School District in South Central Pennsylvania, shares what it's like to be the person responsible for everything with a plug — from pencil sharpeners to AI and robotics. With 18 years in education, 16 of them at Waynesboro, Nick offers a grounded and collaborative perspective on how technology serves as the connective tissue that holds a modern school district together.

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Episode 318 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Wayne Gehris – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:59:00 +0000

In this episode, Wayne Gehris, Chief Financial Officer for the Reading School District, delivers one of the most compelling full-circle stories in this entire PASBO conference series. A proud Reading graduate (class of '93) who attended a high school of 5,000 students before heading to nearby Albright College, Wayne spent 17 years in public accounting before getting a call that would change everything: Reading was on the verge of a state takeover, and a team was being assembled to turn it around. Twelve years later, he's still there — and the work is anything but finished.

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Episode 328 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Siobhan McMahon – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:58:00 +0000

In this episode, Siobhan McMahon, Deputy Executive Director of the Association of School Business Officials (ASBO) International, pulls back the curtain on the organization that supports roughly 11,000 school business professionals across North America. She shares how ASBO works behind the scenes — not in classrooms or districts, but providing the tools, resources, professional development, and advocacy that allow school business officials to do their jobs effectively.

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Episode 317 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Lori McCoy – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:50:00 +0000

In this episode, Lori McCoy, Director of Food Services at Colonial School District in the Philadelphia suburbs, brings a refreshingly different perspective— one focused not on budgets or buildings, but on what students eat, how they eat, and why it matters deeply for learning. A registered dietician with nearly 20 years in the role, Lori oversees food service operations across seven schools serving 5,700 students daily, managing everything from breakfast and lunch programs to catering, vending, kitchen equipment procurement, and staff HR.

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Episode 325 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Sidney Clark – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:49:00 +0000

In this episode, Sidney Clark, School Business Manager at Shanksville-Stonycreek School District in rural South Central Pennsylvania, offers a heartfelt look at what it means to serve one of the smallest school districts in the state — just 285 pre-K through 12th grade students. He shares how the tight-knit, community-centered environment shapes every financial decision he makes, treating all 285 students as his own kids.

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Episode 316 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Ellen Darlington – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:45:00 +0000

In this episode, Ellen Darlington, Director of Solutions and Customer Success from C&A Scientific, discusses the company's mission to provide affordable, high-quality hands-on STEM learning kits for K–12 students. She makes a compelling case for why physical, tactile learning experiences — like that classic exploding volcano — are irreplaceable, and why the neuroscience clearly supports hands-on engagement over screen-based learning.

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Scott A. Chappell – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:41:00 +0000

In this episode, Scott A. Chappell, Business Administrator at Derry Area School District, brings a deeply personal perspective to school finance — he's a graduate of the very district he now leads. That full-circle story shapes everything about the way Scott approaches his work, from understanding the community's values to feeling a genuine sense of pride and responsibility every time a dollar is spent.

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Brian Pawling – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:37:00 +0000

In this episode, Brian Pawling, Director of Business Administration at Radnor Township School District in Delaware County outside Philadelphia, shares his unconventional path from aspiring history teacher to 25-year school business veteran. What started as a first job out of college in the business side of a school district turned into a career he never planned — one that took him from small rural districts with 1,200 students to large suburban districts with over 12,000, and eventually to Radnor, where he oversees finance, facilities, food service, transportation, and virtually all operational functions of the district.

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Episode 323 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Jason McMillen – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:36:00 +0000

In this episode, Jason McMillen, Director of Business Programs and Services at Appalachia Intermediate Unit 8, shares his unexpected journey from aerospace engineer to school business leader with over 17 years of experience. He explains the role of Pennsylvania's 29 intermediate units, originally created to provide special education services, and how they continue to support school districts across the state.

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Episode 314 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Dr. Marcia Stokes – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:34:00 +0000

In this episode, Dr. Marcia Stokes, Chief Financial Officer for Harrisburg School District, brings a truly remarkable breadth of experience to the conversation — having worked in school finance and operations across a Native American reservation in New York, post-Katrina New Orleans, and now one of Pennsylvania's most challenged urban school districts. Her career is a testament to the power of adaptability, mission, and the belief that you don't have to be from a community to fight for it.

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Episode 322 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Randy S. Williams – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:32:00 +0000

In this episode, Randy S. Williams, Sr., M.Ed., Director of Transportation for Wilson School District in Pennsylvania, discusses the often-overlooked role that school transportation plays in shaping students' daily experiences. He shares his journey from 34 years in transportation to pursuing his educational doctorate and superintendent certification at Wilkes University, driven by a desire to give back to the field.

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Joseph P. Lubitsky – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:30:00 +0000

In this episode, Joseph P. Lubitsky, Director of Administrative Services at the Chester County Intermediate Unit, brings over three decades of experience in school business operations to a wide-ranging conversation about peer networks, stewardship, and what it really means to support learning from the business side.

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Episode 321 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Dr. Joni Mansmann – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:18:00 +0000

In this episode, Dr. Joni Mansmann, Director of Business & Finance at Canon-McMillan School District, shares her remarkable journey from Mellon Bank in downtown Pittsburgh to nearly two decades leading school business operations — armed with a teaching degree, a doctorate in education, and a deep passion for the mission of public schools. She's living proof that school business officials are far more than budget managers.

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Episode 320 of the Better Learning Podcast

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From Pittsburgh vs. Philly to School Transformation with Cassandra Renninger – PASBO 2026

Wed, 06 May 2026 04:09:00 +0000

In this episode, Cassandra Renninger, AIA, of The DRAW Collective, brings a Pittsburgh-based architect's perspective to the conversation about school design, long-term facility planning, and the evolving relationship between educators and the built environment. With decades of experience designing K–12 schools across the region, Cassandra offers a candid and thoughtful look at what it really takes to create spaces that serve students well — not just at ribbon cutting, but for generations to come.

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Episode 319 of the Better Learning Podcast

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Educating Every Child, Every Chance, Every Day with Chris Mason

Wed, 29 Apr 2026 04:04:00 +0000

What if the way you lead a school could speak to every student, teacher, and family who walks through the door?

In this episode, Carla Cummins sits down with Superintendent Chris Mason of Quitman ISD in East Texas to explore what happens when a leader brings 22 years of diverse education experience — from coaching junior high kids to navigating federal programs — to the challenge of reimagining what a small rural school district can become. From his unexpected pivot out of criminal justice to championing mental health access and radical transparency, Chris shares how great school leadership isn't about having all the answers on day one — it's about listening, showing up, and building a culture flexible enough to become whatever students and teachers need it to be.

Takeaways:

Leadership starts with presence, not a plan: Great leaders don't arrive with the answer on day one — they show up, build relationships, and earn the trust that makes real change possible. Being present and being available are two very different things, and both matter.
Transparency isn't a strategy — it's a standard: When you say you're going to be open, you have to actually be open. Sharing the why behind decisions, inviting input at every level, and making sure your actions match your words is the only way to build a culture people believe in.
Student-centered means all students, always: It can't be student-centered when it's convenient. From food service workers to bus drivers, every adult in a building has the opportunity — and the responsibility — to be a champion for a kid. That's not a talking point; it's a non-negotiable.
Change takes slower than you think — and that's okay: For a leader who loves rearranging the desks, the hardest lesson is that going fast means going slow first. Front-loading information, finding early adopters, and giving people time to sit with new ideas is the only way change actually sticks.
Student voice is the next frontier: Listening tours and staff surveys are a start — but the most underutilized asset in any school district is the students themselves. Building formal structures for student feedback isn't a nice-to-have; it's how you close the gap between what adults assume and what kids actually need.
Community investment follows community trust: A $30 million bond doesn't pass because the superintendent asked nicely. It passes because 45 community members spent three months understanding exactly where the district stood and where it could go — and then became its biggest advocates.

About Chris Mason:

Christopher "Chris" Mason serves as Superintendent of Quitman ISD, where he leads with a steady focus on student outcomes, fiscal stewardship, and community trust. With 22 years in public education—10 years as a teacher and coach and 12 years in campus and district administration—Chris brings a practitioner's mindset to executive leadership. His experience in the classroom and on the field continues to shape his belief in visible leadership, strong culture, and high expectations for both students and staff.

In May 2025, Chris led the successful passage of a $30 million bond, reflecting the community's confidence in the district's direction and its long-term facilities vision. The bond initiative focused on strengthening infrastructure, enhancing student learning environments, and positioning Quitman ISD for sustainable growth while maintaining responsible financial oversight.

Throughout his career, Chris has been known for clear communication, data-informed decision-making, and a commitment to developing leaders at every level of the organization. He prioritizes relationships with teachers, families, and community stakeholders, understanding that strong schools are built through shared ownership and trust. Under his leadership, Quitman ISD remains committed to its vision: educating every child, every chance, every day."

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How School Architecture Can Drive Equity and Connection with Patricia Culley

Wed, 22 Apr 2026 04:56:00 +0000

What if the spaces we design for learning could speak to every student who walks through the door?

In this episode, Mark Barga sits down with Patricia Culley, Principal at Bohlin Cywinski Jackson, to explore what happens when an architect brings nearly two decades of diverse design experience to the challenge of reimagining K–12 learning environments. From her circuitous path through higher education and cultural institutions to championing outdoor classrooms and biophilic design, Patricia shares how great school architecture isn't about imposing a vision—it's about listening, iterating, and creating spaces flexible enough to become whatever students and teachers need them to be.

Takeaways:

The design process is iterative, not prescriptive: Great architects don't arrive with the answer on day one—they guide clients through many rounds of exploration, often turning initial assumptions on their head before arriving at something that truly reflects the community's values
Stakeholder diversity is your greatest design asset: Surveys, workshops, and hands-on engagement tools serve different audiences differently—the key is building a process that captures meaningful input from faculty, administrators, students, and the broader community, not just the loudest voices in the room
K–12 owners often don't know how to use space as a tool—yet: Unlike higher ed clients who come in with clear needs, K–12 educators sometimes need help seeing how the built environment can actively support pedagogy; the architect's job is to create a shell flexible enough that teachers can make it their own once they're in it
Nature is the great equalizer: Outdoor learning environments aren't an amenity—they level the playing field across abilities, backgrounds, and learning styles, and biophilic design principles belong in every school conversation from day one
Variety sparks innovation—even for the firm itself: BCJ's intentional choice to stay a generalist practice means lessons from residential intimacy, healthcare, and cultural institutions all cross-pollinate into how they think about school design—because at the core, every typology is about how humans interact with the built environment
Flexibility is the ultimate future-proofing strategy: For projects that span fifteen-plus years from visioning to ribbon-cutting, opinions will change, leadership will turn over, and priorities will shift—building adaptability into both the physical design and the process itself is the only way to stay aligned with the community's evolving needs

About Patricia Culley:

Patricia Culley is a principal with Bohlin Cywinski Jackson, an award-winning national architecture firm that excels in celebrating the spirit of place. Her approach to architecture centers on the balance between thoughtful, community-driven design and environmental consciousness. Patricia is a sustainability leader within BCJ and an active voice within the industry.

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Shaping Lifelong Learning for Students with Dr. Greg Taranto

Wed, 08 Apr 2026 21:00:00 +0000

What if the spaces we design for children today could shape how they learn for a lifetime?

In this episode, Mark Barga sits down with Dr. Greg Taranto, Superintendent of Canon-McMillan School District, to explore what happens when a growing district seizes the opportunity to reimagine elementary education. From an unexpected career pivot out of cardiac rehab to leading one of Pennsylvania's fastest-growing districts, Greg shares how Canon-McMillan is building more than a new school—they're building capacity for full-day kindergarten, balanced classrooms, and a future where every child feels like they belong.

Takeaways:

Growth is an opportunity, not just a challenge: When your district is expanding rapidly, use construction projects to solve multiple problems at once—new capacity, balanced class sizes, and the launch of full-day kindergarten across the entire district
Full-day kindergarten must look different than first grade: The extra time isn't about adding more academics—it's about structured play, developmentally appropriate practice, and giving interventions a head start before gaps widen
Large buildings can still feel small: A "school within a school" neighborhood model ensures that even in a thousand-student facility, every child is known by name and every teacher is part of a tight-knit team
Invest in teachers because they're "in the game": Administrators support from the sidelines, but teachers are the ones with students every day—involve them from day one on design, furniture, and classroom layout decisions
Fiscal transparency builds community trust: When you show stakeholders exactly how much you've saved, how much you're borrowing, and what the long-term plan looks like, they see the value—especially once they can walk through the finished building
Get kids outside and off screens: The research is clear—sunshine, movement, and unstructured play stimulate learning neurons. Outdoor learning spaces aren't a luxury; they're essential to how Canon-McMillan thinks about child development

About Dr. Greg Taranto:

Dr. Greg Taranto is a visionary and results-driven educational leader with extensive experience in K–12 administration, currently serving as Superintendent of the Canon-McMillan School District since July 2024.

His 27 year career in education includes roles as Assistant to the Superintendent, Middle School Principal, Assistant Principal, Teacher and Coach. He is also an Adjunct Faculty member at Pennwest University, teaching in Superintendent & Principal Leadership Programs since January 2012.

Dr. Taranto has received numerous accolades, including Pennsylvania Principal of the Year (2012), Outstanding Research Publication Award (2012), and the Frank S. Manchester Journalism Award (2013). He has an extensive list of publications and professional presentations covering topics such as structured literacy, social media, leadership, and educational initiatives.

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Putting Kids at the Center of Every Decision with Dr. Kelly May-Vollmar

Wed, 01 Apr 2026 04:38:00 +0000

What happens when you realize education has never really been designed for students?

In this episode, Jeff Kubiak and Carla Cummins sit down with Dr. Kelly May-Vollmar, Superintendent of Desert Sands Unified School District in La Quinta, California. With 34 schools and 27,000 students, Dr. May-Vollmar has built a district culture rooted in student voice, community trust, and relentless accessibility. From volunteering as an art teacher in her daughter's first grade classroom to leading a $675 million bond measure, her journey reflects a simple but radical belief: students deserve a seat at the table.

Takeaways:

Student voice isn't optional—it's the foundation: From superintendent advisory panels to climate surveys with open-ended questions, Desert Sands builds systems that actively solicit and act on student input—because kids know what authentic work looks like and when adults aren't being transparent
Trust is built through consistent presence: Attending every PTO and booster meeting, hosting "Coffee with Kelly" events, and sitting in staff lounges during lunch aren't PR tactics—they're how you understand what your community actually needs
Eliminate barriers, not just friction: Borrowed from the Savannah Bananas' "fans first" philosophy, the district's "students first" framework has staff asking themselves in real time: "Are we creating a barrier? We can't do that."
Alignment isn't top-down—it's everywhere: Board priorities (academic proficiency, future focus, warm and welcoming environments) cascade through every division, every professional development session, and get reported on quarterly with defined metrics

About Dr. Kelly May-Vollmar:

Kelly May-Vollmar, Ed.D. is the proud Superintendent for Desert Sands Unified School District (DSUSD), serving approximately 27,000 students. Throughout her over 20 years in education Dr. May-Vollmar has held many different roles and served in numerous capacities. Dr. May-Vollmar has served on the CoSN Digital Equity Educator Advisory Panel and is the co-chair of the National Chief Technology Officer Council and the AASA/CoSN Empowered Superintendent's Advisory Committee. She is currently a CoSN Board Member. In 2026 Dr. May-Vollmar was named a Superintendent to Watch by the National School Public Relations Association and in 2025 she was named one of the top 100 Innovators in Education by District Administration. In 2024 Dr. May-Vollmar was honored to receive the DALI Women of Distinction Award and the CalSPRA Superintendent to Watch award. Kelly was also awarded the CA CITE Educational Leader of the Year award in 2019 and the Association of CA School Administrators State Technology Administrator of the year in 2019. She is passionate about bridging the divide that often exists between curriculum and technology departments as well as bridging the digital divide for all students. To this end she is thrilled to have led her district to launch their own LTE Network to address the digital divide and to be awarded the CoSN Digital Equity Award in 2021.

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Designing Schools That Last For Generations with David Schrader

Wed, 25 Mar 2026 04:46:00 +0000

What if the buildings we design for learning could shape communities for generations?

In this episode, Mark Barga sits down with David Schrader, Principal at Schrader Group (now part of Cord Coplan Macht), to explore what it truly means to design schools that serve as community centers. From an unlikely start designing correctional facilities to walking through Alcatraz with drooped shoulders, David shares how he found his calling in academic design—and why he believes every school should feel like a town green surrounded by spaces where learning happens.

Takeaways:

Start with the learner, not the line item: When districts lead with conversations about students and learning processes rather than dollars and timelines, you know you're stepping into something transformative
True partnership means going on the journey together: The best projects span years—sometimes decades—of relationship building, surviving multiple boards and administrations while staying rooted in community values
Flexibility isn't a buzzword—it's a warehouse mentality: Build simple structural bays where walls can move; combine that with modern furniture, and you've created adaptable environments the fifties never imagined
Watch how industry thinks about space: The most forward-thinking work environments drip down through higher ed into K-12—and ideally, should start in pre-K and lift with learners throughout their journey
The best buildings are community centers that happen to teach: Twenty years from now, success isn't about the design holding up—it's whether the building still feels like the heart of its community
Design for timelessness, not trends: Avoid the puke-green glazed tile of one era or the split-face block and standing seam roofs of another—build something that can't be pinpointed to a decade

About David Schrader:

Principal, Academic Programmer, Planner, and Designer

For 35 years, David's professional experience has been focused on the design of next generation educational facilities. David acts as Principal-in-Charge and leads the design team throughout the project duration to develop and execute design solutions that achieve all client goals.

His ability to create a vision with his clients has fostered significant success for all involved including the client, the design team and the public-at-large. "Partnership in design is key to creating a better designed environment for each client."

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Teamwork Makes the Dream Work with Erica Thompson

Wed, 18 Mar 2026 04:57:00 +0000

What if a school could rebuild not just itself, but the community's trust and identity?

In this episode, Carla Cummins and Nick Marmolejo sit down with Erica Thompson, Business Development professional at Wells Building Systems, to explore how schools serve as the heartbeat of their communities. From her unexpected journey through accounting and Colorado's early marijuana industry to becoming a passionate advocate for K-12 construction, Erica shares how building schools is about far more than bricks and mortar—it's about creating spaces where students discover who they are.

Drawing from her work across Colorado's diverse communities, Erica reveals how the built environment shapes student identity, why schools are "networking machines," and how one Denver neighborhood fought to reclaim their closed high school—and won.

Takeaways:

Teamwork makes the dream work: Radically student-centered design means shifting from "me" to "we"—creating environments where students learn to build their teams and cultivate lifelong relationships
Schools are networking machines: Beyond academics, schools create micro-communities—band kids, athletes, robotics crews—where students form identities and connections that last decades
Research the community, not just the building: Understanding demographics, attending town halls, and reading master plans reveals what each unique community truly needs from their school
Strategic, not sacrifice: When budgets tighten, stay rooted in your district's mission—make strategic decisions rather than compromising what students deserve
Measure success by who comes back: When Montbello High School reopened after a decade, 1,100 of 1,200 freshman seats filled immediately—proof that communities will invest in spaces that invest in them
Design for generations: Today's students become tomorrow's parents and grandparents—build schools that honor the past while serving futures you'll never see

About Erica Thompson:

My career began with an ambitious plan to become a nuclear engineer, which quickly

pivoted (after an honest math check) to accounting. I earned my CPA license at 22 and

began auditing small to mid-sized banks during the very exciting years of 2007 to 2014.

That experience led me into the emerging medical marijuana industry, where I helped

companies create GAAP-compliant accounting practices in a world needing it.

Reconciling cash without banks was as unconventional as it sounds, and it taught me

adaptability, creativity, resilience, and humor.

While entrepreneurship sparked my interest in sales, it was construction manufacturing

that truly shaped my career. I entered the industry as a Sales Representative at General

Shale, where I helped amplify regional brick sales and adopted my guiding motto:

Teamwork Makes the Dream Work. Under the mentorship of Mark Stutz and later Jared

Rabin at Rio Grande, I learned the power of solution-based selling. Shifting from

providing products to solving real problems. These mentorships taught me to build long-

term, developmental relationships, one of which ultimately led me to Wells.

Today, I serve in Business Development at Wells, where I focus on connecting with end

users to gather insights, identify market opportunities, and support strategic growth.

Surrounded by strong leadership, including Dan Parker, I've found my professional

home. This role naturally led me to A4LE and a passion for learning environment

spaces that do far more than house education; they anchor communities, shape

generations, and serve as points of connection. I highlight leadership throughout my

story because my journey has never been just about "me". It's a collective we. None of

this happens alone. Teamwork Makes the Dream Work.

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How School Architecture Shapes Student Futures with Jesse Miller

Wed, 11 Mar 2026 05:27:00 +0000

What if the buildings we design for students could shape not just how they learn, but who they become?

In this episode, Jeff Kubiak and Carla Cummins sit down with Jesse Miller, Managing Senior Principal at PBK Architects, to explore how K-12 architecture can transform education from the ground up. From designing Compton High School alongside Dr. Dre to creating spaces where students don't want to leave, Jesse reveals how thoughtful design decisions today can impact generations of learners for the next century.

Drawing from over two decades designing schools across California, Nevada, and Texas, Jesse shares how truly radically student-centered environments are built through vision, community input, and asking one essential question: will this make a student's daily experience better?

Takeaways:

Design for a hundred years, not today: Schools must outlast current pedagogy—ask what education looks like 70 years from now, not just what works in 2026
Every square foot matters: From corridor nooks to bathroom design, if a student will experience it, it deserves intentional thought
Put learning on display: Create environments where students can "shop their future" by seeing what peers are creating and achieving across campus
Include every voice: Teacher workshops reveal current needs, but student workshops unlock what's truly possible—get both perspectives before a single line is drawn
Flip the script on control: Traditional schools were optimized for managing students; radically student-centered schools support how they learn, move, collaborate, and belong
Measure success by who stays: When kids don't want to leave campus at 9 PM, you've designed something right
When learners thrive, communities flourish: This is the heart of radically student-centered design

About Jesse Miller:

With over twenty two plus years of expertise in architectural design and sustainable solutions, I currently serve as Managing Senior Principal at PBK overseeing the West Region, where I contribute to innovative and sustainable civic and education projects. I currently lead over 260 design and engineering professionals committed to elevating our clients places and spaces into environments beyond imagination. My previous leadership role as Regional Sector Leader for DLR Group allowed me to drive impactful design strategies in the California K-12 sector, leveraging my skills in design research and sustainable architecture.

Certified as an architect by the California Architects Board and holding credentials as a LEED Green Associate and DBIA professional, I am dedicated to fostering collaborative environments that prioritize sustainability and innovation in educational spaces. My mission is to create designs that inspire learning and positively impact communities.

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How Informal Learning Spaces Are Changing the Way Kids Learn with Anne Fullenkamp

Wed, 04 Mar 2026 05:23:00 +0000

What if your school building wasn't just a place where learning happens, but one of the most powerful teachers in the room?

In this episode, Mark Barga sits down with Anne Fullenkamp, Senior Director of Creative Experiences at the Children's Museum of Pittsburgh, to explore how thoughtfully designed spaces can spark curiosity, boost confidence, and expand what students believe is possible. From hallways that invite discovery to classrooms that adapt to every learner, Anne reveals how architecture can quietly shape mindsets, behaviors, and futures.

Drawing from her accidental journey from practicing architect to museum exhibit designer—where she's spent nearly two decades living alongside her own designs—Anne shares how truly student-centered environments are built through empathy, collaboration, and treating schools like the laboratories they can be.

Takeaways:

Buildings as learning tools: Design schools that actively participate in learning, not just house it—every wall, hallway, and corner can tell a story
Start with "what if": Center design charrettes on how spaces will look and feel, not just how many seats you need
Remove barriers to curiosity: Create environments where teachers can respond in the moment without calling facilities for a work order
Make movement matter: Balance gross motor and fine motor experiences throughout the day—even the hallways can serve learning
Design for adaptability: Treat schools like museums—plan for environments to evolve with changing pedagogy and technology over 50+ years
Budget smarter, not bigger: You don't need massive investments to start—make small bets, experiment with a corner or underused classroom first
When learners thrive, communities flourish: This is the heart of radically student-centered design

About Anne Fullenkamp:

Anne Fullenkamp, Associate AIA, LEED AP, Senior Director of Creative Experiences, Children's Museum of Pittsburgh

With more than 25 years of experience in the museum design and architectural fields, Anne is responsible for design and execution of museum experiences at the Children's Museum of Pittsburgh. In her role as Senior Director of Creative Experiences, she oversees the Museum's permanent exhibits and collections, artist residencies, traveling exhibit program, design consulting and other business development programs, leading complex design teams consisting of artists, scientists and researchers.

Since joining the Museum of Pittsburgh in 2006, Anne has served as lead designer, contributing to the on-going development of the Museum's Play with Real Stuff design philosophy for informal learning environments that advocates for authenticity in all museum experiences. In addition, she is leading the Museum's universal design initiative, working with cultural organizations in Pittsburgh to advise on best practices for update the physical amenities to help make the city a hub for accessibility in the arts. As part of this work, she was part of the team to coordinate the implementation of Universal Design practices on the Museum campus, that resulted in MuseumLab, a major capital project on campus, receiving isUD certification from the University at Buffalo, School of Architecture and Planning's Center for Inclusive Design and Environmental Access (IDEA Center). Anne is the point person for ongoing research with the IDEA Center in the application of universal design principles on our campus. Likewise, she has received training from in the IDEA Center in the practice of universal design and continues to pursue continuing education opportunities in the discipline.

In recent years, Anne's work in inclusive design practices has expanded to include her design consulting work with K-12 schools. As part of the Museum's vision to transform education, Anne serves as an experience consultant for school districts, teachers and architects to help maximize the informal learning opportunities within the formal school environment, focusing specifically on the convergence of social-emotional learning and STEAM curriculum with overall health and wellbeing of the school community.

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Making Opportunities Visible Through Design with Susan Morgan

Wed, 25 Feb 2026 05:06:00 +0000

What if your school building wasn't just a place where learning happens, but one of the most powerful teachers in the room?

In this episode, Jessica sits down with Susan Morgan to explore how thoughtfully designed spaces can spark curiosity, boost confidence, and expand what students believe is possible. From hallways that invite discovery to classrooms that adapt to every learner, Susan reveals how architecture can quietly shape mindsets, behaviors, and futures.

Drawing from her own journey where she helped design her Montessori school as a child to leading innovative projects across the country, Susan shares how truly student-centered environments are built through empathy, collaboration, and bold "what if" thinking.

Takeaways:

Buildings as learning tools: Design schools that actively participate in learning, not just house it
Start with "what if": Invite all stakeholders to reimagine possibilities before focusing on constraints
Remove barriers to curiosity: Create environments that support natural learning instincts rather than limiting them
Make opportunities visible: Use spatial connections so students are exposed to disciplines they might not otherwise discover
Design for adaptability: Treat schools like museums—plan for environments to evolve with changing pedagogy and technology
When learners thrive, communities flourish: This is the heart of radically student-centered design

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The Power of Community-Centered Design with Courtney Ter-Velde

Wed, 18 Feb 2026 05:28:00 +0000

In this episode, Carla Cummins and Jessica Westerduin speak with Courtney Ter-Velde, K-12 Project Manager and Interior Design Specialist at LaBella Associates, about radically student-centered design in educational spaces. Courtney shares her unique journey from musical theater performer and sociology major to interior designer specializing in K-12 education. She discusses her passion for working with smaller rural districts where design impact resonates deeply throughout the community, including a playground project that transformed a district that hadn't seen updates in 30 years. The conversation explores how schools can be spaces where students find safety, develop trust, and discover their sense of self—going far beyond just improving educational outcomes. Courtney also reflects on the balance between technology and traditional learning methods, noting research supporting pen-and-paper learning alongside digital tools.

Takeaways:

Schools shape more than academics: Design spaces where students can find safety, build trust, and develop their sense of self
Support educators too: Create environments that empower teachers to focus on their vital work
Ask deeper questions: Build trust with stakeholders to move beyond surface-level conversations about storage and into meaningful dialogue
Every project deserves full attention: Budget size doesn't determine the level of care—smaller districts often see the biggest community-wide impact
Balance technology thoughtfully: Integrate digital tools while respecting research on pen-and-paper learning and diverse learning styles
People are our greatest resource: Collaborate across disciplines—designers, manufacturers, educators—to create truly successful spaces

About Courtney Ter-Velde:

Courtney Ter Velde, NYS CID, is K–12 Project Manager and Interior Design Specialist and in the Architecture Division at LaBella Associates, in their Rochester, NY location. A graduate of Rochester Institute of Technology with over thirteen years of industry experience, she specializes in educational programming, space planning, standardization, visualization, and evidence-based design that supports social-emotional learning, wellness, and equity. Courtney is an Accredited Learning Environment Planner (ALEP) and LEED Green Associate, bringing expertise in educational visioning, community engagement, pre-design planning, and sustainable, student-centered environments. She currently supports multiple school districts across the western NY region, guiding projects from pre-referendum through construction, including capital improvement initiatives focused on safety, accessibility, technology integration, and flexible, future-ready learning spaces.

A recognized leader and advocate for educational design, Courtney is a former New York Chapter President and current Northeast Region President-Elect of the Association for Learning Environments (A4LE), where she advances interdisciplinary collaboration and industry engagement. She serves on the Monroe 2 BOCES Student Foundation Board, mentors students through the IIDA Explorer Program, and contributes to professional discourse through conference presentations and publications. Through her design work, leadership, and community involvement, Courtney is dedicated to creating healthy, inclusive, and inspiring environments that elevate learning and positively impact the next generation.

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Designing Schools for Students with Sarah Dirsa

Wed, 04 Feb 2026 05:02:00 +0000

In this episode, Jessica Westerduin and Carla Cummins speak with Sarah Dirsa, principal at KG&D Architects, about radically student-centered design in educational spaces. Sarah shares her unique journey from English teacher to architect, explaining how her teaching experience in Florence and St. Louis shaped her approach to creating flexible, individualized learning environments. She discusses innovative projects featuring collaborative zones, adaptable classrooms, and spaces that foster student agency and ownership. The conversation emphasizes the importance of listening to stakeholders, meeting learners where they are, and designing schools that evolve beyond traditional classroom models to prepare students for future careers and technologies.

Takeaways:

Listen first: Understand pedagogical goals and community needs before designing
Meet learners where they are: Accommodate diverse learning styles with flexible spaces
Challenge assumptions: Reimagine schools beyond traditional classroom models
Design for choice: Create varied zones for individual, small group, and collaborative learning
Think ahead: Build adaptable spaces for evolving technology and teaching methods

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The Lightning Strike is Coming...

Wed, 21 Jan 2026 05:20:00 +0000

Kevin Stoller and Matt Rogers are building anticipation for a live stream event on February 2nd at 2 PM Eastern—and they're keeping it mysterious. They promise this announcement will be unexpected and game-changing for anyone in educational design, school leadership, and construction. If you're not there, you'll be behind the curve.

The hosts also reflect on their 2025 season exploring school movies like Billy Madison and School of Rock. For 2026, they're pivoting to tackle real industry problems while keeping the fun alive, with themes tied to their big February reveal. Mark your calendar and register—this is one you can't miss.

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'Billy Madison' with Brian Schoch, Katelyn Forcucci and Kevin Stoller

Wed, 31 Dec 2025 05:17:00 +0000

In Adam Sandler's Billy Madison, an immature heir's journey back through grade school becomes a wild, comedic exploration of learning, privilege, and the power of second chances. As Billy stumbles from kindergarten to high school, the film asks: what does it really mean to grow up, and how do our experiences in school shape who we become? And for educators, how can humor, humility, and a willingness to start over help us connect with students—and ourselves—on a deeper level?

Through Billy's misadventures, the eccentric cast of teachers and classmates, and the absurd challenges he faces, we see the importance of perseverance, the value of community, and the unexpected lessons that come from embracing failure. The movie reminds us that transformation—whether in a classroom, a school, or a person—often begins with a willingness to be vulnerable, to laugh at ourselves, and to try again.

On this first-ever live audience recording of the Better Learning Podcast, host Kevin Stoller is joined by Brian Schoch and Katelyn Forcucci, along with responses and insights from multiple audience members. Together, they explore what Billy Madison reveals about education, leadership, and the messy, joyful process of learning at any age.

Takeaways:

Growth in education isn't always linear—sometimes it takes a few detours, mistakes, and a sense of humor to get where we need to go.
Privilege and opportunity can shape our educational journeys, but real learning requires humility, effort, and support from others.
Teachers and classmates play a crucial role in helping us overcome setbacks and discover our strengths.
Embracing failure and starting over can lead to deeper understanding, resilience, and empathy.
Laughter and playfulness can break down barriers, build community, and make learning more meaningful for everyone.
The live audience's questions and reflections add fresh perspectives, reminding us that learning is a shared, ongoing adventure.

Join us for this lively episode as we blend comedy, education, and real-time audience energy to uncover the lessons hidden in Billy Madison's outrageous return to school.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Julia Miller - EDspaces 2025

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:45:00 +0000

In this episode, Julia Miller from Playful Learning Landscapes discusses how her team co-designs playful, student-centered learning spaces in public areas like parks and bus stops. She emphasizes the importance of including children's voices in every step of the design process, using evidence-based principles, and fostering community engagement to create fun, meaningful learning experiences for all kids.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Celeste Karier - EDspaces 2025

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:40:00 +0000

In this episode, Celeste Karier of FGM Architects joins Katie Jubenville to discuss designing radically student-centered educational spaces. Celeste shares how her team gathers input from both students and adults, uses surveys and prototypes, and encourages real-world feedback to create environments that support academic and social-emotional needs. The conversation also touches on the evolving role of technology and the importance of adapting to future changes in education.

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Episode 297 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Ronni Jarvis - EDspaces 2025

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:34:00 +0000

In this episode, Ronni Jarvis, Educational Solutions Manager at Alumni Educational Solutions, joins Lauren Glunz to discuss the importance of radically student-centered learning environments. Ronni shares real-world examples of how flexible furniture and thoughtful classroom design can support collaboration, student comfort, and engagement. (Here's an example of this!) The conversation highlights the value of giving students ownership of their space and predicts that student-centered approaches will become the standard in education over the next decade.

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Episode 296 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Dr. Lennie Scott-Webber - EDspaces 2025

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:20:00 +0000

In this episode, Dr. Lennie Scott-Webber joins Matt Rogers to discuss the importance of radically student-centered learning environments. Drawing on her extensive background in education, design, and research, Dr. Scott-Webber shares insights on how space, neuroscience, and universal design principles can transform learning experiences. The conversation highlights the need for collaboration between educators, students, and designers, and emphasizes the value of flexible, inclusive spaces that support engagement, well-being, and future-ready skills.

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Episode 295 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to David Shulkin - EDspaces 2025

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:15:00 +0000

In this episode, David Shulkin joins Matt Rogers to discuss the journey of creating radically student-centered learning environments. David shares insights from his experience leading school renovations, emphasizing the importance of student choice, meeting diverse needs, and engaging all stakeholders in the design process. The conversation highlights the challenges and rewards of change management, the value of flexible spaces, and the need to prepare students for an evolving future.

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Episode 294 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Dr. Erin Reilly-Sanders - EDspaces 2025

Thu, 11 Dec 2025 05:00:00 +0000

In this episode, Dr. Erin Reilly-Sanders joins Nick Marmolejo to discuss what it means to be radically student-centered in education. Erin shares insights from her work in educational design and teaching, emphasizing the importance of flexible, inclusive learning environments and the shift from traditional teacher-centered models to more collaborative, student-focused approaches. The conversation highlights real-world examples and practical ideas for creating spaces where students are empowered to lead, explore, and thrive.

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Episode 293 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Dr. Amira McLemore Wolfson - EDspaces 2025

Wed, 10 Dec 2025 05:40:00 +0000

In this episode, Dr. Amira McLemore Wolfson, CEO of Pace School, joins Matt Rogers to discuss creating radically student-centered learning environments for students with autism and social-emotional needs. Amira shares how thoughtful classroom design, flexible spaces, and collaboration with staff and students lead to improved learning, well-being, and engagement. The conversation highlights the importance of evolving educational spaces to meet diverse needs and support student growth.

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Episode 292 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Sukanya Walsh - EDspaces 2025

Wed, 10 Dec 2025 05:35:00 +0000

In this episode, interior designer Sukanya Walsh from Quinn Evans joins Matt Rogers to discuss the importance of creating student-centered learning environments. Sukanya shares her approach to designing flexible, collaborative spaces that adapt to students' evolving needs, highlights the value of involving students and educators in the design process, and reflects on trends shaping the future of educational spaces.

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Episode 291 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Dr. Brian O'Keefe - EDspaces 2025

Wed, 10 Dec 2025 05:30:00 +0000

In this episode, Dr. Brian O'Keefe, assistant superintendent at Wheaton Unit School District 200, joins host Katie Jubenville to discuss radically student-centered education. Dr. O'Keefe shares insights on recent school renovations, including flexible classrooms and innovative lighting designed to support student well-being and learning. The conversation highlights the importance of adapting to diverse student needs, fostering strong teacher-student relationships, and always prioritizing what's best for kids in a changing educational landscape.

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Episode 290 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Dr. Kirsty Montgomery - EDspaces 2025

Wed, 10 Dec 2025 05:13:00 +0000

In this episode, Matt Rogers interviews Dr. Kirsty Montgomery, head of school at Avery Coonley School in Downers Grove, Illinois. Dr. Montgomery shares her perspective on radically student-centered education and discusses how thoughtful design decisions—like centralizing student support services—can positively impact student well-being and learning. The conversation explores the school's historic campus, the importance of community and student input in campus planning, and the commitment to sustainability and future-focused education. Listeners gain insight into how inclusive, intentional design and long-term vision can create a supportive and innovative learning environment for generations to come.

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Episode 289 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Patrick Smith - EDspaces 2025

Wed, 10 Dec 2025 05:11:00 +0000

In this episode, Matt Rogers interviews Patrick Smith, principal of Aspen Ridge Elementary School, about the process of designing and opening a new, radically student-centered school in Osseo Area Schools, Minnesota. Patrick shares insights on involving students, staff, families, and the community in the planning process, the importance of innovative learning spaces, and the district's commitment to collaboration and inclusion. The conversation highlights the excitement and challenges of building a school focused on amplifying student voices and preparing for the future of education.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Tracy Hucul - EDspaces 2025

Wed, 10 Dec 2025 05:00:00 +0000

In this episode, Matt Rogers interviews architect Tracy Hucul from Quinn Evans Architects. Tracy shares her insights on radically student-centered design, emphasizing the importance of listening to students, creating diverse and inclusive learning environments, and giving students agency in shaping their educational experiences. The conversation explores how educational spaces are evolving, the impact of AI on learning and design, and the need for adaptable solutions that reflect the unique needs of each community. Tracy also discusses her work in CTE spaces and the importance of approaching every project with an open mind and heart.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Dave Broz - EDspaces 2025

Tue, 09 Dec 2025 05:42:00 +0000

In this episode, Matt Rogers welcomes guest Dave Broz, professor at Columbia College Chicago and former global educational space designer. They discuss the importance of radically student-centered design, the shift away from "average" solutions, and how flexible, adaptable environments can better support diverse student needs. Dave shares insights from both his teaching and design experience, highlighting the evolving role of technology and the value of designing to the edges to create truly inclusive learning spaces.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to David Cupolo - EDspaces 2025

Tue, 09 Dec 2025 05:31:00 +0000

In this episode, David Cupolo shares insights on designing student-centered learning environments. The conversation explores the importance of collaboration, flexibility, and listening to student voices in the design process. Key takeaways include the value of creating spaces that adapt to diverse needs and the impact of thoughtful design on student engagement and success.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Jesse Readlynn - EDspaces 2025

Tue, 09 Dec 2025 05:29:00 +0000

In this episode, interior designer Jesse Readlynn discusses the importance of creating student-centered learning environments. He shares insights on giving students more choice and autonomy, the challenges of renovating traditional school spaces, and the value of early collaboration and community engagement in the design process. The conversation highlights the need to break from the status quo and involve students directly to create spaces that truly support their learning and well-being.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Jeannie Haubert - EDspaces 2025

Tue, 09 Dec 2025 05:24:00 +0000

In this episode, host Kevin Stoller interviews Jeannie Haubert, Executive Director of LEARN. Jeannie shares insights from her experience in higher education, highlighting how student-centered design decisions—like creating welcoming student lounges—can foster community and improve learning outcomes. The conversation also explores the mission of LEARN, which connects academic research with K-12 decision makers to support evidence-based practices in education.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Jonathan Stanley - EDspaces 2025

Tue, 09 Dec 2025 05:22:00 +0000

In this episode, Jonathan Stanley Director of Strategy for Tarkett North America, joins Kevin Stoller to discuss the challenges and opportunities in creating radically student-centered schools. They explore the importance of early collaboration, effective storytelling, and community engagement in school design and renovation projects. The conversation highlights how thoughtful planning can help avoid missed opportunities and ensure that new educational spaces truly serve students and their communities for generations.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Kelsey Jordan - EDspaces 2025

Tue, 09 Dec 2025 05:18:00 +0000

In this episode, Kevin Stoller and Kelsey Jordan discuss the importance of including all voices—students, staff, families, and the community—when designing educational spaces. They explore how thoughtful communication, change management, and understanding diverse needs can help create more engaging, student-centered environments. The conversation highlights the challenges and opportunities in transforming schools to better support learning for everyone.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Robin R. Randall - EDspaces 2025

Mon, 08 Dec 2025 05:15:00 +0000

In this episode, Robin Randall, director of the learning practice at Legat Architects, discusses the importance of radically student-centered design in educational spaces. She shares insights on creating inclusive, evidence-based environments that support all learners, including neurodivergent students. Robin highlights the impact of thoughtful design on student well-being and behavior, and emphasizes the value of involving students in the design process to foster curiosity and success.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Stephanie Matthews - EDspaces 2025

Mon, 08 Dec 2025 05:11:00 +0000

In this episode, Matt Rogers interviews Stephanie Matthews, Executive Director of A Tribe for Jazz. Stephanie shares how her nonprofit uses jazz and arts integration to create culturally relevant, hands-on STEM learning experiences for students. The conversation explores the importance of centering student voices, embracing technology, and connecting education to real-world career paths. Stephanie highlights the impact of immersive programs like Jazz Lab and discusses the evolving role of student-centered learning in preparing youth for the future.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Ashley B. Gould and Carol Crutchfield - EDspaces 2025

Mon, 08 Dec 2025 05:09:00 +0000

In this episode, Victoria Morlan speaks with Ashley Gould and Carol Crutchfield from Beaufort County School District about radically student-centered design in education. They discuss the importance of prioritizing students' needs in classroom and facility planning, involving the community in school projects, and creating flexible, play-based learning environments. The conversation highlights memorable moments of student engagement in newly designed spaces and the value of collaboration between educators, administrators, and families.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Lauren Frye - EDspaces 2025

Mon, 08 Dec 2025 05:07:00 +0000

In this episode, Matt interviews Lauren Frye, an architect and educator at Forsyth Country Day School. Lauren shares her unique perspective on radically student-centered design, drawing from her dual roles in education and architecture. She discusses the importance of involving students in the design process, listening to their needs, and creating flexible, inclusive learning environments. The conversation explores how schools can prioritize student well-being and creativity, and the ongoing challenge of helping educators adapt to new, student-focused spaces.

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Episode 277 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Samantha Blum - EDspaces 2025

Mon, 08 Dec 2025 05:02:00 +0000

In this episode, Matt Rogers interviews Samantha Blum, a senior interior designer at FGM Architects and recent Next Gen award recipient. Samantha shares her journey from healthcare to education design, emphasizing the importance of people-focused, experiential spaces that support student well-being and learning. She discusses the concept of radically student-centered design, offering insights and examples from her work on how flexible, collaborative environments empower both students and teachers. The conversation explores the evolving role of design in education and the impact of fostering agency and adaptability in learning spaces.

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Episode 276 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Dr. Noel Schmidt - LearningSCAPES 2025

Fri, 05 Dec 2025 05:55:00 +0000

In this episode, Dr. Noel Schmidt discusses his radically student-centered approach to school design and education. He emphasizes the importance of involving students in the planning process, from visiting other schools for inspiration to actively participating in design meetings. Dr. Schmidt shares innovative features implemented based on student feedback, such as slides and ninja gyms in elementary schools, flexible learning spaces, and abundant natural light. He also highlights the prioritization of instructional spaces over athletic facilities and the value of extensive community engagement. The episode showcases how putting students at the center leads to creative, future-focused educational environments.

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And the Winners of the 2025 SchoolsNEXT Design Challenge Are...

Fri, 05 Dec 2025 05:34:00 +0000

Challenged to plan and design sustainable and resilient learning spaces that encourage innovation, critical thinking and collaboration, these young designers have broadened the potential of a school by connecting excellence in design with excellence in education. Their rigorous research, exceptional teamwork and eco-friendly solutions not only meet the needs of students, but address the economy and society of the future, enabling them to master the skills they need to take on the challenges of a world defined by change.

In this episode, recorded at the LearningSCAPES conference, Better Learning Podcast co-host Matt sits down with several teens from Desert Mirage Elementary School that participated in the SchoolsNEXT Design Challenge. They share challenges they had while designing their school, and the biggest success they found after it was over.

Award of Excellence - High School: Discovery High School: OAS

Jasmine Wieringa, An Luu, Zac Tricola, & Ella Tretheway Discovery High School | Camas, WA

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Award of Excellence - Middle School: Lakeview Middle School: E-STEAM High School

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Rebecca Baibak - LearningSCAPES 2025

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 05:58:00 +0000

In this episode, architect Rebecca Baibak of Integrus discusses her approach to designing Radically Student Centered™ learning environments. Rebecca shares how listening to students of all ages shapes innovative school spaces, from outdoor courtyards to flexible indoor-outdoor areas.

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Episode 271 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Matt Warren - LearningSCAPES 2025

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 05:50:00 +0000

In this episode, Matt Warren, Deputy Superintendent for Lexington School District Two in South Carolina, discusses what it means to be radically student-centered in education. He shares his commitment to prioritizing student well-being and individualized support, and reflects on the importance of strong relationships within schools. Matt also recounts the challenges and successes of leading a district-wide furniture replacement project, highlighting the value of teamwork and careful planning in large-scale educational initiatives.

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Episode 268 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Dr. Krystal L. Clemons - LearningSCAPES 2025

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 05:45:00 +0000

In this episode, Dr. Krystal L. Clemons, founder of Our Village Consulting, discusses the importance of centering students, families, and communities—especially those who are marginalized—in educational planning. She shares her strength-based approach to engagement, the need to truly listen and partner with communities, and highlights her successful youth leadership program that empowered students to find their voices and make a difference.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Carey Upton - LearningSCAPES 2025

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 05:35:00 +0000

In this episode, Carey Upton, Chief Operations Officer of the Santa Monica-Malibu Unified School District, shares his insights on radically student-centered learning. Carey discusses the shift from traditional, teacher-driven education to empowering students to find their own ways of learning.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Colleen Martinez - LearningSCAPES 2025

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 05:20:00 +0000

In this episode, Colleen Martinez, president of Visions In Planning, shares her journey from architectural design to educational planning, emphasizing the importance of radically student-centered spaces. She discusses the need to listen to all stakeholders, especially in rural communities, and highlights the value of inclusive, future-focused school design that meets the needs of both students and educators in New Mexico.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Philip Riedel - LearningSCAPES 2025

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 05:16:00 +0000

In this episode, guest Philip Riedel, an architect and global board member for A4LE, discusses the importance of radically student-centered design in schools. He shares insights on involving students in the design process, learning from post-occupancy evaluations, and adapting spaces to better serve both students and teachers.

Philip highlights innovative approaches to privacy and safety in school locker rooms and restrooms, emphasizing the need for thoughtful design and community buy-in. The conversation explores the challenges of implementing new ideas in traditional systems and the ongoing evolution toward more inclusive, student-focused learning environments.

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Peter Sharma - LearningSCAPES 2025

Thu, 04 Dec 2025 05:00:00 +0000

In this episode, Peter Sharma, a sustainability consultant with Stantec, to discusses radically student-centered design in educational spaces. Peter shares his approach to creating inclusive, sustainable environments by focusing on the unique needs of every student and integrating sustainability from the earliest stages of design.

The conversation covers the importance of addressing embodied carbon, climate resiliency, and the evolving expectations of future generations. Peter also reflects on industry shifts driven by environmental standards and the need to meet climate goals for the benefit of students and communities.

Listen to the last episode of the Better Learning Podcast that Peter was on, where Kevin and Peter discussed the movie 'Metal Lords'.

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Episode 272 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Katherine Wiley - LearningSCAPES 2025

Wed, 03 Dec 2025 05:49:00 +0000

In this episode, interior designer Katherine Wiley shares her journey from growing up abroad to designing educational spaces in Texas. She discusses the importance of creating learning environments that are truly student-centered, emphasizing empathy, emotional well-being, and community involvement. Katherine explains how thoughtful design—considering factors like lighting, acoustics, and flexible spaces—can enhance student performance and well-being. She also reflects on the need for early and ongoing conversations about student needs in educational design.

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Episode 259 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Michael Kelly - LearningSCAPES 2025

Wed, 03 Dec 2025 05:35:00 +0000

In this episode, architect Michael Kelly of KCBA Architects shares insights from his decades of experience designing educational spaces in Pennsylvania. Michael discusses the evolution of school architecture, emphasizing the importance of creating flexible, student-centered environments that foster excitement and collaboration.

He reflects on lessons learned from past projects, the value of community and educator input, and the need for adaptable spaces to meet the changing needs of students and teachers. The conversation highlights the challenges and rewards of renovating older schools, the impact of thoughtful design on learning, and the importance of ongoing dialogue between architects, educators, and communities.

Episode 266 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Ryan M. Orr - LearningSCAPES 2025

Wed, 03 Dec 2025 05:32:00 +0000

In this episode, Ryan Orr, principal at KCBA Architects, talks about his career journey from intern to leader and his perspective on creating radically student-centered learning environments. Ryan shares insights from his experience in education-focused architecture, emphasizing curiosity, mentorship, and the importance of empowering students to take charge of their learning. The conversation also explores how emerging technologies like AI may shape the future of student-centered design.

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Episode 267 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Jennifer Grafton - LearningSCAPES 2025

Wed, 03 Dec 2025 05:28:00 +0000

In this episode, architect Jennifer Grafton shares how she brings a student-centered mindset to school design, even when resources are limited. She discusses the importance of seeing spaces from a child's perspective, engaging students, staff, and communities early in the process, and encouraging educators to embrace change. Jennifer emphasizes that even small shifts can disrupt the status quo and help create more meaningful, student-focused learning environments.

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Episode 261 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Aaron Jobson - LearningSCAPES 2025

Wed, 03 Dec 2025 05:28:00 +0000

In this episode, architect Aaron Jobson shares how he designs flexible, student-centered learning environments that adapt to changing needs. He discusses the importance of engaging students and communities in the design process, creating spaces that support a variety of programs, and building for long-term sustainability. Aaron also highlights the value of real-world learning opportunities and the impact thoughtful design can have on both students and their communities.

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Episode 262 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Lydia Burns - LearningSCAPES 2025

Wed, 03 Dec 2025 05:23:00 +0000

In this episode, Jeff interviews Lydia Burns, an architect and designer from Bassetti Architects in Portland, Oregon. Lydia shares her insights on creating student-centered school environments, emphasizing the importance of engaging students directly in the design process.

She discusses creative strategies for gathering student input, such as surveys, hands-on workshops, and design thinking curricula. Lydia highlights a standout project where students in a CTE (Career and Technical Education) program collaborated on designing and building a tiny home, which was later donated to a homeless village. Throughout the conversation, Lydia underscores the value of including diverse voices—students, staff, alumni, and community members—in school design, and reflects on the sense of ownership and pride students gain from participating in these projects.

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Episode 264 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Lorne McConachie - LearningSCAPES 2025

Wed, 03 Dec 2025 05:23:00 +0000

In this episode, principal emeritus Lorne McConachie discusses his decades of experience designing student-centered schools, emphasizing the importance of personalization, flexibility, and trauma-informed design to create learning environments that truly serve every child.

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Episode 265 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Kevin J. Walsh - LearningSCAPES 2025

Wed, 03 Dec 2025 05:10:00 +0000

In this episode, architect Kevin J. Walsh discusses the importance of making educational spaces truly student-centered. He shares how his team involves students, staff, families, and communities early in the design process to ensure all voices are heard. Kevin explains how listening, gathering feedback, and adapting to changing needs help create learning environments that are flexible, inclusive, and responsive to those they serve.

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Episode 260 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Angel Hosband - LearningSCAPES 2025

Wed, 03 Dec 2025 05:02:00 +0000

In this episode, architect Angel Hosband shares how student-centered design transformed a high school in Bakersfield, California. By creating open, collaborative spaces for both students and teachers, the school fostered a stronger sense of community and support—even in a challenging environment. Angel also discusses the importance of inclusive design for students with additional needs, emphasizing the value of flexibility, empathy, and holistic thinking in educational spaces.

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Episode 263 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Danny Sewell - LearningSCAPES 2025

Tue, 02 Dec 2025 05:57:00 +0000

In this episode, host Nick welcomes Danny Sewell from Muso and his innovative creation, Juice Bot. The conversation covers Danny's cross-country journey, the inspiration behind Juice Bot, and the importance of making learning both accessible and fun.

Danny discusses the concept of being radically student-centered, emphasizing the need to prioritize students' diverse learning needs, celebrate cultural and linguistic diversity, and use technology to enhance access and engagement. The episode explores the role of music, imagination, and "serious fun" in education, highlighting how tools like Juice Bot can foster creativity, inclusivity, and lifelong learning. Danny also shares thoughts on balancing technology with imagination, the value of boredom, and the importance of empowering teachers as the "secret sauce" in education. The episode wraps up with resources for connecting with Danny and Juice Bot online.

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Episode 255 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Brian Proctor - LearningSCAPES 2025

Tue, 02 Dec 2025 05:44:00 +0000

In this episode, Brian Proctor, a former educator and now architect at Ratio Design, discusses the importance of radically student-centered school design. Drawing on his experience as a principal and designer, Brian emphasizes listening to student voices, creating flexible and future-ready learning spaces, and challenging traditional adult-driven decisions. The conversation highlights the value of community involvement, adapting to evolving technology, and ensuring that educational environments truly serve students' needs now and in the future.

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Episode 257 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Stefee Knudsen - LearningSCAPES 2025

Tue, 02 Dec 2025 05:37:00 +0000

In this episode, Kevin interviews Stefee Knudsen, principal at Bora Architecture and Interiors, about designing radically student-centered high schools. Stefee discusses the challenges and opportunities in creating flexible, inspiring educational spaces that adapt to students' needs, highlighting the importance of long-term vision, community investment, and innovation in school design.

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Episode 253 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to John Pfluger - LearningSCAPES 2025

Tue, 02 Dec 2025 05:25:00 +0000

In this episode, host Jeff interviews John Pfluger of the Cunningham Group about the award-winning design of Rock Ridge High School and two elementary schools in Minnesota. John shares the philosophy of "Dancing with the Yeti"—embracing challenges with creativity and collaboration—and discusses how student-centered design and a deep connection to the local landscape shaped these innovative educational spaces.

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Episode 252 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Robert Dillon - LearningSCAPES 2025

Tue, 02 Dec 2025 05:21:00 +0000

In this episode, Jeff Kubiak interviews Robert Dillon, an influential educator and author known for his work on intentional school design and Radically Student Centered™ learning.

Robert shares insights from his experience as a teacher, principal, and parent, emphasizing the importance of adapting education to meet students' needs and creating modern learning environments. He discusses the value of common language in education, translating research into practice, and advocating for better learning spaces, especially for communities with limited resources.

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Episode 251 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Michelle Klosterman - LearningSCAPES 2025

Tue, 02 Dec 2025 05:17:00 +0000

In this episode, Michelle Klosterman, Assistant Head of School at Forsyth Country Day School, discusses what it means to be "radically student centered" in education. She shares her journey from biomedical engineering to education, emphasizing the importance of making every decision with students' needs at the forefront.

Michelle describes how independent schools can be more agile in implementing innovative learning spaces and highlights the impact of involving students in the design of their environments. She also reflects on the evolving needs of students, the importance of self-regulation, and the necessity for educators to adapt as students change over time. The conversation offers practical insights into creating learning environments that truly prioritize and empower students.

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Episode 258 of the Better Learning Podcast

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What Radically Student Centered™ Means to Jeremy Ortiz - LearningSCAPES 2025

Tue, 02 Dec 2025 05:07:00 +0000

In this episode, architect Jeremy Ortiz of Archis discusses the importance of radically student-centered school design. He explores how thoughtful planning, flexibility, and understanding diverse learning needs are essential for creating effective educational environments. Jeremy and the host reflect on the evolving role of technology, the value of hands-on and personalized learning, and the resurgence of career and technical education (CTE) pathways. The conversation emphasizes lifelong learning, the need for multiple educational paths, and the irreplaceable human element in education.

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Episode 254 of the Better Learning Podcast

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