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11Prompt - Universe /?q=taxonomy/term/113 en Did the universe originate from nothing? /?q=node/603 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>In 2010, scientist Lawrence M. Krauss wrote an article1 in the Wall Street Journal in which he argued that since the total amount of energy in our current universe is zero, it follows that the universe originated from nothing. The gist of his argument was this: Let us assume that the universe actually arose from nothing. (Here it is the so-called nothing of scientists, not the nothing of philosophers.) Then the total energy of the universe must be zero, because everything here started from nothing. Amazingly, scientists have also found that the total energy in the present universe is zero. So it is natural to say that the universe actually originated from nothing, because only then would its total energy be expected to be zero. </p> <p>But by applying the same argument that Krauss uses for showing that the universe originated from nothing, it can be shown that the universe could not have originated from nothing. His argument was this: If the universe had originated from nothing, then the total energy of the universe would be zero. And the total energy of the universe is also zero. But if the total energy of the universe is zero because of the fact that the universe had originated from nothing, then the total amount of space-time of the universe will also be zero because of the same fact that the universe had originated from nothing, But have scientists been able to show that the total amount of space-time in the universe is zero? If they can't show it, then they can't claim that the universe had originated from nothing.</p> <p>Reference:<br /> 1. <a href="; </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/344" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Lawrence M. Krauss</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/114" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">nothing</a></li></ul></div> Thu, 19 Dec 2024 15:23:26 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 603 at /?q=node/603#comments All We Need to Know about Quantum Entanglement /?q=node/599 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Almost all physicists who work on quantum gravity state that space-time is emergent, not fundamental. If space-time is emergent, what does it mean? Since space-time could not exist before the emergence of space-time, the emergence of space-time means that there is another layer in the universe below the layer of space-time where there is no space-time, and from which layer space-time has emerged. If two points are in the layer of the universe where space-time is real, there will be some distance between those two points. That distance can be one light-year, that distance can be 1 billion light-years, and again be 93 billion light-years if the two points are at the two ends of the universe. But in the layer of the universe where there is no space-time, the distance between those two points will be zero in all three cases because there is no space-time at that layer. When two quantum particles are entangled, if their position after entanglement is in a layer of the universe where there is no space-time, no matter how far the two particles are from each other, the distance between them will always be zero. In this situation, why should we be surprised if an observation made on one entangled particle will affect the other particle instantaneously?</p> <p>However, we can draw two conclusions from the claim that space-time is emergent. I have drawn one so far, but not the other one. The conclusion is that if space-time is emergent, then space-time was also emergent at the time of the beginning/birth of the universe. Scientists cannot say that space-time was fundamental at that time and that space-time has somehow become emergent at some point later. If scientists admit that space-time was emergent at the beginning/birth of the universe, they must say that the layer from which space-time emerged was also present before the beginning/birth of the universe. Otherwise, where did space and time come from when the universe was born? And if scientists can't admit that, then let them stop saying that space-time is emergent; they should say that space-time is fundamental.</p> <p>Now, we can come to what Einstein stated about his theory of general relativity: If we solve the equations of GR without energy and matter, then flat space-time would obtain, and special relativity would govern that flat space-time. So, according to him, this world was eternal, but there was a time when there was no energy and matter, and then the world was flat. I have used the word world here but not the word universe. However, Einstein forgot to mention one thing here. His GR had shown that space-time could not exist without matter. That is, what Einstein said about his theory of general relativity can be expressed as follows: before the appearance of energy and matter, that is, before the beginning/birth of the universe, there was always a world, that world was flat, and in that flat world there was no space, no time, no energy, and no matter. I would request the readers to consider whether they can find any similarity between the conclusion drawn from what Einstein said about GR and the one drawn from the statement that space-time is emergent.</p> <p>Now, we can talk about quantum entanglement. The picture that emerges from all the experiments on quantum entanglement is this: there is no such thing as space-time in one layer of the universe. As long as two quantum particles remain entangled, no matter how distant they are from each other, the distance between them will still be zero. That is because an observation made on one particle will immediately affect the other.</p> <p>Now, if we put these three together and come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as space-time in one layer of the universe and that this layer where there is no space-time was present before the beginning/birth of the universe, is still present, and will be present in the future as well, then will it be very absurd? And if there is such a layer in the universe where distance and time have no meaning at all, then it is natural that phenomena like quantum entanglement should be a common occurrence there. So, there is no reason for us to be surprised by the phenomenon of quantum entanglement, and there is no reason for scientists to worry about being unable to explain that phenomenon. So, what is the use of all those sayings that there is spooky action at a distance, or that quantum entanglement violates special relativity, or that the wave function exists in reality when we can provide a simple explanation of it based merely on the fact that space-time is emergent? </p> <p>All we need now is a scientist who, with great courage and despite all the cynicism of all the scientists on earth, can forcefully demand that we should draw the conclusion that emergent space-time is forcing us to and admit that a non-spatiotemporal layer predates the beginning/birth of the universe from which space-time emerged at the time of the beginning/birth of the universe, and which layer still exists, as evidenced by all the experiments on quantum entanglement.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/168" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Einstein</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/115" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space-time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/269" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Non-spatiotemporal</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/172" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Quantum Entanglement</a></li></ul></div> Sat, 09 Mar 2024 13:36:10 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 599 at /?q=node/599#comments Why Nature is red in Tooth and Claw /?q=node/593 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>In one YouTube comment thread, a person wrote the following: </p> <p>He had watched a documentary on animals and sea life. He was watching how vicious nature could be. Sharks were killing seals, and alligators were killing zebras that crossed the river, lions were killing their prey, and on and on. After seeing all these, he started thinking about whether God was also like this. If we look at nature, we will see things appear calm on the one hand, and on another, things look so chaotic. Was it that God also meant for everything to be as it was? People will be killing other people, and then there will be all the crime, sickness, poverty, starvation, suffering, etc.? If one thinks about it, it all happens in nature, and we humans are all part of nature. So, if this is God's nature as well, then we are all doomed! </p> <p>The following was my reply to him: </p> <p>There is an easy explanation for that. It was God’s method of family planning and birth control.</p> <p>Think of a situation when there were only herbivores on this planet and no carnivores to keep their numbers in check and balance. What would have happened after millions and millions of years? All these herbivores would have gone extinct due to an extreme food shortage; the earth would also have turned into a desert. In that situation, no new species could appear on earth.</p> <p>But God created this universe to bring someone in it with whom he would be able to communicate. So, to preserve the greens on earth, God had to adopt this cruel method. That is because man had not yet appeared on the scene at that period that could use their intelligence to invent an effective means of birth control for these herbivorous animals. </p> <p>Once man has appeared on earth, now all these carnivorous animals can go extinct. There is no need for any wildlife conservation for these carnivores.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/322" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Nature</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/323" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Family Planning</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/324" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Birth Control</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/325" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Wild Life Preservation</a></li></ul></div> Fri, 23 Jul 2021 16:10:11 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 593 at /?q=node/593#comments Spaceless, Timeless, and Immaterial /?q=node/592 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>1) Physicists have shown that the total energy of the universe is zero.<br /> 2) SR has shown that mass and energy are equivalent.<br /> 3) Again GR has shown that space, time, and matter are so interlinked that there cannot be any spacetime without matter; similarly, there cannot be any matter without spacetime. There is a saying of Einstein on this: "When forced to summarize the general theory of relativity in one sentence: Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter." (Source: Google search) </p> <p>Based on the three above, it can be shown that the universe as a whole is spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. </p> <p>The total energy of the universe being zero, it can be shown that its total matter is also zero. </p> <p>The famous equation of Einstein from SR shows that E is equal to m multiplied by c squared. If E is zero now, then m will be equal to zero divided by c squared, which will also be zero. So, the total energy of the universe being zero, Einstein's famous equation shows that in that case, the total mass of the universe will also be zero. </p> <p>Now, the below portion is from Google search:<br /> //What is mass in Physics with example? Mass can be best understood as the amount of matter present in any object or body. For example, a table, a chair, your bed, a football, a glass, and even air has mass. ... That being said, all objects are light or heavy because of their mass.// </p> <p>As the total mass of the universe is zero, so the total amount of matter present in the universe will also be zero.</p> <p>As the total matte of the universe is zero, so we can say that the universe as a whole is immaterial.</p> <p>If the total matter of the universe is zero, its total spacetime will also be zero because as per GR, there cannot be any spacetime without matter. </p> <p>What does it mean that the total spacetime of the universe is zero? It means that the universe as a whole is spaceless and timeless, or non-spatiotemporal, if we use the new scientific term that has replaced the old one spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>We have already seen that the universe as a whole is immaterial. Now we have seen that it is also spaceless and timeless. So, we can say that the universe as a whole is spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. </p> <p>Again, the total energy of the universe always remains zero. Therefore, the universe as a whole will always remain spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. </p> <p>That means the universe as a whole does not change at all. </p> <p>As the universe as a whole does not change at all, so we can say that the universe as a whole is spaceless, timeless, changeless, and immaterial.</p> <p>That nicely explains why the wave function of the universe does not contain any time variable.</p> <p>However, the above conclusion will be falsified if anybody in the near or distant future can show that the total energy of the universe has a non-zero value.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/320" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Physicists</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/321" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Wave Function</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-9" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/149" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Immaterial</a></li></ul></div> Thu, 15 Jul 2021 15:12:26 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 592 at /?q=node/592#comments One-particle universe /?q=node/590 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>If it were possible for a human being to be simultaneously present in New York and London, then the distance between these two cities would be zero for that human being. But, for all the other human beings, this distance would remain the same as before. </p> <p>If it were possible for someone to be simultaneously present at every point of the universe, then the distance from one end of the universe to its other end would be zero for that being because this being would be simultaneously present at both ends. Similarly, the time taken to travel from one end of the universe to its other end would also be zero for that being. </p> <p>Here, we can say that the properties of the light show as if someone is simultaneously present at every point of the universe. That requires some detailed explanation.</p> <p>For the light itself, this universe is zero millimeters long. Both the travel time and the travel distance become zero for light. If we suppose that someone is simultaneously present at every point of the universe, then the universe will also be zero millimeters long for it. That is because it will be simultaneously present at both ends of the universe. Both the travel time and the travel distance will also become zero for it. That is because it will be simultaneously present at every point of the universe. That is the reason why it can be said that the properties of the light show as if someone is simultaneously present at every point of the universe. </p> <p>Experiments on quantum entanglement also show the same thing. If we arbitrarily choose any two points from the vast space of the universe, then the experiments on quantum entanglement will always show that the distance between these two points is zero. That is because an observation made on anyone entangled particle will also affect the other particle instantaneously. Here also, we can use the same analogy. If someone is simultaneously present at every point of the universe, the distance between any two points arbitrarily chosen will be zero for that being. Both the properties of light and the experimental results of entanglement show the same thing as if someone is simultaneously present at every point of the universe. Here we will be getting the same properties as those that we will be getting in the first case of light and entangled particles.</p> <p>However, physicists may not accept our suggestion that someone is simultaneously present at every point of the universe. So, here is one more.</p> <p>The universe consists of only one particle (P), and this P is simultaneously present at every point of the universe. From this, we can now extract all those properties of light and the properties of the entangled particles. And we will find that this description of the universe makes quite a good sense.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/318" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">London</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/319" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">New York</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/52" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Light</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/172" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Quantum Entanglement</a></li></ul></div> Sat, 15 May 2021 13:01:36 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 590 at /?q=node/590#comments The Ultimate Justification for a Creator /?q=node/588 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Part I</p> <p>Two reasons can be given as to why an entity may be spaceless and timeless: </p> <p>1) Reason A: If the entity is not within any space and time, then it will naturally be spaceless and timeless. We can also say that it will be spaceless and timeless by default; </p> <p>2) Reason B: If the entity is placed within some space and time, and if it is forcefully deprived of space and time, then also it will become spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>For 1), we can give the example of the entity from which our known spacetime has emerged. In this 21st century, physicists are no more saying that spacetime is fundamental; rather, they are saying it is emergent. Spacetime is emergent means the source from which spacetime has emerged cannot be within any spacetime, for the simple reason that there cannot be any spacetime prior to its emergence. So, not being within any spacetime, it will naturally be spaceless and timeless. However, physicists are describing it not as spaceless and timeless, but as non-spatiotemporal. Whatever may be the nomenclature, the concept remains the same in both cases; the source from which spacetime has emerged is not within any spacetime and so, it is naturally non-spatiotemporal/spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>For 2), we can give the example of black hole singularities. Earlier, it was known to us that black hole singularities were point-like. Now it has been known that they are not point-like but rather one dimensional ring-like. In case of black hole singularities, whether they are point-like or ring-like, space and time almost contract to zero due to a tremendous gravitational force. </p> <p>Now suppose there is one more entity within the universe that is also spaceless and timeless, but for which neither Reason A nor Reason B can be thought of as its cause. Here I am speaking about light. Light is within the universe, but as per SR both the travel distance and the travel time become zero for light. So, within the space and time of the universe, light occupies zero space for zero time, which is tantamount to saying that light is spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>Can we say that light is spaceless and timeless due to Reason A? No, we cannot say so, because we know very well that light is within the space and time of the universe. </p> <p>Can we say that light is spaceless and timeless due to Reason B? No, we cannot say so, because we are not aware of any force that is active in case of light causing space and time contract to zero for light. </p> <p>If light is spaceless and timeless neither due to Reason A, nor due to Reason B, then what is the reason due to which it is so? </p> <p>Moreover, no black hole is as big as the universe. So, the length that is almost contracted to zero in case of black hole singularities is nothing compared to the entire width of the universe. But for light, the entire width of the universe is contracted to zero. If a tremendous gravitational force is responsible for the contraction of a black hole’s size of length almost to zero, then which force is responsible for the contraction of the entire width of the universe to zero, in case of light? </p> <p>Does anyone have a clue about it? Can anybody say what the cause is due to which light is spaceless and timeless?</p> <p> Part II</p> <p>I have already stated that we do not know the reason due to which light is spaceless and timeless. But, whatever may be the reason of this, it can be shown that this reason cannot lie within the space and time of the universe. </p> <p>Let us suppose that X is that reason and that X is within the universe. If X is not spaceless and timeless itself, then it is not possible for it to make another entity spaceless and timeless. So, X must have to be spaceless and timeless first, and then only it can make another entity spaceless and timeless. But, if X is also spaceless and timeless, then we will have to ask the same question about X that we were earlier asking about light: Being already placed within the space and time of the universe, how has it become spaceless and timeless? So, now we will have to search for the cause due to which X has become spaceless and timeless. Therefore, from this we can conclude that the cause due to which light is spaceless and timeless cannot lie within the space and time of the universe. It must lie outside any space and time. </p> <p>The only entity that we know of that lies outside any space and time is the source from which our known spacetime has emerged. The existence of this entity in nature has already been confirmed once physicists have declared that spacetime is emergent. So, here is one entity that is spaceless and timeless by default, and for which we need not have to seek any further cause due to which it has become spaceless and timeless, because we already know that it is not within any space and time. </p> <p>Now, if scientists can somehow show that this lifeless, mindless, and unconscious entity but that happens to be spaceless and timeless simply by default, can NATURALLY make another entity (aka light) spaceless and timeless, then this universe WILL NEVER NEED ANY GOD. </p> <p>However, if they fail to do so, then only we will be compelled to posit some sort of consciousness here, because it is possible for a conscious being only to know how it is spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>Science is the ultimate arbiter of truth and so, let science show that there is a natural explanation here. </p> <p>We will be waiting for that explanation.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/52" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Light</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/316" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Black Hole Singularity</a></li></ul></div> Mon, 01 Mar 2021 14:50:52 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 588 at /?q=node/588#comments So easy, yet so difficult /?q=node/586 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Here is a game. If anyone in this world can play this game successfully, then she will be able to prove the existence of God with the help of science. </p> <p>Let us suppose that this universe has a creator. If this creator is to keep proof of his existence in the created world in such a way that it can be easily recognized as proof of a creator, then which proof will he keep?</p> <p>Anybody can play this game, theists and atheists alike, because it starts with a supposition only. </p> <p>Here is a hint for those who will take part in this game: A creator as a creator may have some particular properties which no one else, nothing else created by him may have, simply because they have been created and because they are not the creator. If we now find these particular properties of a creator in someone or something created, then we will immediately understand that these are from the creator only because no created being or thing can naturally have those properties.</p> <p>Here is one more hint: When we say about something that it is spaceless and timeless, what we mean to say about it is that it is not within any space and time. But, whatever is there in the universe, is within the space and time of the universe. Being already placed within the space and time of the universe, can anything naturally be spaceless and timeless, that is, not within any space and time?</p> <p>Here is one more: If there is indeed a creator of this universe, then it can be said that this creator has brought everyone and everything within the universe into existence. Whatever has been brought into existence by the creator has been given certain lifetime. Many stars in the sky have a lifetime of several billion years; we human beings have a lifetime of a few decades; some insects have a lifetime of a single day only. Can we think of anything that has also been brought into existence by the creator, but that has been given no lifetime?</p> <p>When anybody playing this game will be able to correctly pinpoint those particular properties that only a creator is privileged to have, this game will be over.</p> <p>Proving the existence of God is so easy, yet so difficult.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/314" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Theist</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/139" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Atheist</a></li></ul></div> Wed, 20 Jan 2021 05:37:39 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 586 at /?q=node/586#comments Was emergent spacetime fundamental at the beginning of the universe? /?q=node/580 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>In one YouTube comment thread one atheist has remarked that it is really infuriating that all the apologist arguments that he has seen presented so far have ultimately failed to provide any proof for the existence of god. All their arguments are nothing but playing around with definitions of words and literally just throwing an explanation into the gaps of our knowledge, thus showing that every single god argument is essentially a god of the gaps argument, or that they feel good or special by being able to give that argument. Although it is not the case that he does not want there to be a god, yet he hopes that this god will not be the genocidal maniac presented in the Bible. </p> <p>I replied to him in the following manner:</p> <p>‘If there is a God at all, then that God is not the God of this earth only, that God is the God of the entire universe. On this earth, many myths have been created around this God, but these myths cannot have any meaning and significance to the other civilizations, if there are any in the outer space, as the myths if created by the other civilizations in the outer space will not have any meaning and significance to us. So God should not at all be judged by any myths created by any religion on earth. This point should always be remembered. </p> <p>‘Regarding the question as to whether there is any evidence for the existence of God, you can read my article ‘God, the full and final version’ here:</p> <p><a href="; <p>‘However, one cautionary remark here. Please do not try to misinterpret me, either willingly or unwillingly, because atheists are very much prone to do that. In the above article, I have shown as to why a creator of the universe will always be spaceless and timeless. Then I have also shown that scientists in the 21st century have come to the conclusion that spacetime is not fundamental at all and that it has emerged from something non-spatiotemporal/spaceless and timeless in nature. </p> <p>‘So, this much is confirmed by science up till now that there is something spaceless and timeless in nature and I have also shown that God will always be spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>‘Nothing further has been claimed or asserted by me that this shows there is a God. Rather, I have written that in order to come to the conclusion that this spaceless and timeless thing has got consciousness, we will have to wait for the delivery of the requisite goods from the scientists.’ </p> <p>After getting my reply, this atheist becomes silent. But it is not so easy to silence all the atheists at the same time and so there immediately appears another atheist in the scene and states that my understanding of present-day cosmology is biased and outdated. This is because there are at least two cosmological models that do not require a first cause. These are: 1) Hawking’s no boundary proposal and 2) Penrose’s conformal cyclic cosmology. Both of these models are mathematically coherent and the Penrose model may even have some physical evidence. </p> <p>My reply to this atheist was a bit lengthy, but he also became silent after getting the reply. Below it is:</p> <p>‘Your comment shows that perhaps you have not yet fully understood what it means that spacetime is emergent. An entity is emergent means it cannot emerge from just anything or nothing; it can emerge from some pre-existing entity or entities only. In the case of spacetime, this pre-existing entity is something non-spatiotemporal. In brief, we can call it NSE (non-spatiotemporal entity). </p> <p>‘This NSE must be pre-existent in each and every cosmological model of the universe in which it is an accepted fact that the universe is expanding from an initial zero size and that it is not static. In some of the models, the expansion of the universe will stop after some time and then it will begin to contract and eventually it will come to a zero size. From there another phase of the universe will begin. In some other models, this expansion does not stop and nobody knows for how long the universe will go on expanding. But in every cosmological model that has been presented to us so far, this expansion of the universe from an initial zero size is there. That means in each and every cosmological model presented to us, spacetime has a beginning. Spacetime being emergent cannot begin/emerge from anything else other than NSE. Here there will be no beginning of spacetime, rather the emergence of spacetime from some pre-existing entity. </p> <p>‘Here it might be objected: why can it not be the case that spacetime was fundamental at the beginning of the expansion of the universe and that it became emergent later on only? Here our question will be: Not from any theory, but from the external world, can scientists give any concrete evidence that spacetime was fundamental at the beginning of the expansion of the universe? </p> <p>‘Here I will give you one example for making my point clear. In the special theory of relativity, there are two equations that show that at the speed of light time totally stops and that even an infinite distance becomes zero for light. The first one is the scientific explanation for timelessness and the second one is the same for spacelessness. So, it can be said that SR has shown how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless. It can also be shown by some simple logic that a timeless entity is also a deathless entity. So, we can now say SR has shown how it is possible to be spaceless, timeless and immortal. Based on this, can we jump to the conclusion that there is a spaceless, timeless and immortal being, aka God? Will anybody allow us? Will you allow us? </p> <p>‘Here you will say: “We want some concrete evidence that there is a God. Only theory or maths will not do.” </p> <p>‘We are saying the same thing here also: “We want some concrete evidence that spacetime was fundamental at the beginning of the expansion of the universe. Only theory or maths will not do.”’</p> <p>My remark: There is a difference between science and religion. In religion, everything is accepted by faith alone, no evidence being required for any claim made. But in science, this is not so, because in science we do not accept anything by faith; we require some evidence for every claim made by the scientists. So, if scientists now claim that spacetime was fundamental when the universe began to expand, then they must provide some suitable evidence in support of their contention that it was fundamental at that time.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/311" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">The Bible</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/259" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spacetime</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/116" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Special theory of relativity</a></li></ul></div> Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:14:16 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 580 at /?q=node/580#comments God-question being existential, can be answered by science only /?q=node/579 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>If there is a God at all, then any evidence for the existence of that God must come from science only because the language of science is the only language that will be the same everywhere in the universe. </p> <p>If there is a God, then that God will not be the God of a small tribe on this earth; neither will he be the God of this earth only. Rather, he will be the God of the entire universe. The current estimate is that there are about two trillions of galaxies in the observable part of our universe. If we now suppose that there is at least one planet in each galaxy on which human or human-like creatures have appeared, then there are at least two trillion human or human-like civilizations in the observable part of the universe. So, if God is to keep any evidence of his existence in the universe, then he will have to keep it in a language that will be equally understood by all these two trillion civilizations. And that language can only be the language of science. </p> <p>That is the reason as to why any evidence for the existence of God must come from science only. </p> <p>There is one more reason as to why this evidence must come from science only, the reason being that the God-question is essentially an existential question, the question being whether there is any God at all. As this is an existential question, so this cannot be settled by logic alone. By logic alone we cannot decide that there is a God; or, by logic alone we cannot decide that there is no God. In both the cases, we need some evidence and this evidence can come from science only. </p> <p>That is the reason as to why all the traditional arguments for the existence of God that were known to man for more than two thousand years, have so far failed to convince the non-believers that there is a justified reason to believe in the existence of God, because all these traditional arguments have tried to settle an essentially existential question by means of logic alone which they cannot do.</p> <p>I have already stated that any evidence for the existence of God must come from science only. So, without much advancement in science, it was not possible to get any such evidence from there. Only when science has made some progress, then only we begin to get such shreds of evidence from science.</p> <p>1) God is mostly described by the theists as spaceless and timeless. In the first decade of the 20th century, two equations in SR have shown how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless. At the speed of light, time totally stops and even infinite distance becomes zero for light. The first one is the scientific explanation for timelessness and the second one is the same for spacelessness.</p> <p>2) Then in the 21st century, scientists have come to the conclusion that spacetime is not fundamental and that it has emerged from something non-spatiotemporal in nature. It has already been explained earlier that 'non-spatiotemporal' is the new scientific term for the old term 'spaceless and timeless'. That means scientists are now saying that there is something spaceless and timeless in nature from which spacetime has emerged.</p> <p>3) Here it should be remembered that modern science began from the time of Copernicus (1473-1543). Several centuries have passed after that and in the 21st century only scientists have come to the conclusion that there is something spaceless and timeless in nature. So, it is quite logical to expect that they might require some more centuries for coming to the conclusion that this spaceless and timeless thing is actually a conscious being.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/306" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Galaxy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/310" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Copernicus</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/307" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Human civilization</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/308" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Evidence</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/309" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Logic</a></li></ul></div> Sat, 14 Sep 2019 12:56:25 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 579 at /?q=node/579#comments Our universe is multi-layered and God can reside in it at some deeper layer /?q=node/578 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>As theists frequently claim about God that he is outside space and time, so some atheists have mistakenly thought that this means God is outside the universe. As there is nothing outside the universe, so God does not exist.</p> <p>But this is not true. Repeated observations of the phenomenon of quantum entanglement have compelled the scientists to come to the conclusion that at some deeper layer in the universe there is no space and time. That is why the connection between two entangled particles is established instantaneously, defying all the space-time separation between the two.</p> <p>This shows that our universe is multi-layered. At its uppermost layer, there is spacetime; but at some deeper layer, there is no spacetime. The universe is spaceless and timeless at that layer.</p> <p>So, if this spaceless and timeless God is to be there at all, then he need not have to be outside the universe. He can very easily accommodate himself within some deeper layer of this universe. That is why God is also called all-pervading.</p> <p>So, our conclusion is this: our universe is multi-layered and God can reside in it at some deeper layer.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/196" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Theists</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/160" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Atheists</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/161" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Scientists</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/172" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Quantum Entanglement</a></li></ul></div> Tue, 03 Sep 2019 13:01:40 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 578 at /?q=node/578#comments


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11Prompt - Special theory of relativity /?q=taxonomy/term/116 en The One /?q=node/601 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>The two theories of special and general relativity clearly show the relationship between space, time, energy, and matter. Special relativity has shown that energy and matter are equivalent; energy can be converted into matter, and matter into energy. Again, general relativity shows that space, time, and matter are so interrelated that there cannot be any space-time without matter; similarly, there cannot be any matter without soace-time. </p> <p>Since there cannot be any space-time without matter, and since there can neither be any matter without soace-time, therefore it can be asserted that space-time and matter have originated from one single source only. If the source of space-time and the source of matter were different, then there could not be such an interrelation between space-time and matter. Again, since energy and matter are identical, therefore we can assert that space, time, energy, and matter have originated from one single source only. </p> <p>This interrelation between space-time and matter shows us that at the root of all things is the One, and that One is neither space, nor time, nor energy, nor matter, though space, time, energy, and matter have originated from that One only. If that One is neither space, nor time, nor energy, nor matter, then what is that One? It is not possible for anyone to say anything about that One, which is why Indian philosophy has only said neti, neti about that One; it is not this, it is not that, etc.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/116" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Special theory of relativity</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/117" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">General theory of relativity</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/340" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">The One</a></li></ul></div> Sun, 11 Aug 2024 07:14:29 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 601 at /?q=node/601#comments Why spacetime is not fundamental /?q=node/595 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Now, we all know that spacetime is not fundamental, because physicists are saying so. But, do we know the reason why spacetime cannot be fundamental?</p> <p>This is a physics question as well as a philosophy question.</p> <p>If we say that X is a fundamental ingredient of the universe, then we will have to admit that whatever will exist in it, will need X for its existence. Nothing can exist without it.</p> <p>However, if there is something in the universe that does not need X for its existence, then X cannot be called a fundamental ingredient of the universe. </p> <p>Now, we want to know why spacetime is not fundamental. So, we will ask this question now: Is spacetime a fundamental ingredient of the universe? And we will try to find out an answer to this question.</p> <p>Our task is very simple here. We will ask just one more question here: Is there anything in the universe that does not need spacetime for its existence? </p> <p>If the answer is yes, then we know for sure that spacetime is not a fundamental ingredient of the universe.</p> <p>And the answer is yes here, because there is at least one entity in the universe that does not need any spacetime for its existence. That entity is light. Einstein’s special theory of relativity has shown that a photon occupies zero space for zero time because both the travel time and the travel distance become zero for light. </p> <p>It is also true that we cannot do anything without light; light is so much essential for us. And the irony is that this most essential entity for us does not need any spacetime for its existence. It can do without it.</p> <p>So, how can we say that spacetime is a fundamental ingredient of the universe? How can we say that it is fundamental?</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/168" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Einstein</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/116" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Special theory of relativity</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/259" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spacetime</a></li></ul></div> Sat, 14 May 2022 10:38:48 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 595 at /?q=node/595#comments Do time and distance really shrink to zero at light-speed? /?q=node/587 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>So far as I can remember, there are these two equations in Einstein’s special theory of relativity:<br /> l1 = l(1-v2/c2)1/2……. (1)<br /> t1 = t((1-v2/c2)1/2……. (2)</p> <p>From the above two equations, two conclusions can be drawn that are as follows:<br /> 1) Time and distance are not absolute, they are relative;<br /> 2) At light speed, both travel time and travel distance become zero. </p> <p>Now reality may be such that<br /> 1) Time and distance are only relative, but in no circumstances they become zero (A);<br /> 2) Time and distance are not only relative but at one particular case, they also become zero (B). </p> <p>If reality is A, then the above two equations are not required at all to represent that reality; it can be equally represented by the following two equations:<br /> l1 = l(1-v2/xc2)1/2……. (3)<br /> t1 = t((1-v2/xc2)1/2……. (4) </p> <p>In (3) and (4) above, x will have a value greater than one but less than infinity. But it cannot have a value equal to one or infinity. If the value of x is one, then we will go back to Einstein’s equations, whereas if its value equals infinity, then we will have Newton’s equations instead. From (3) and (4) above, it can clearly be seen that time and distance will be relative as before, but they will never be zero even at the speed of light due to the presence of the factor 1/x in the equations. </p> <p>Now, I know very well that it is not possible to experimentally demonstrate what is actually happening at the speed of light and so, it is reasonable to doubt whether time and distance really shrink to zero at light-speed. However, there is an alternate way to verify it.</p> <p>Suppose scientists have repeated the Michelson-Morley experiment or any newer version of it, and suppose that they have arrived at equations (3) and (4) instead of equations (1) and (2). Then, based on these two equations (3) and (4), they can say that the shrinkage of time and distance to zero at light-speed is only a myth.</p> <p>But, nature knows better than any one of us what is actually happening at the speed of light and so, whenever an actual experiment is performed with light and an interferometer, it is always returning us equations (1) and (2) only and not equations (3) and (4) even for a single time. This is nature’s indirect way to inform us that we are not doing any mistake when we are saying that time and distance become zero for light. </p> <p>Scientists usually do not question this and so, we can find such statements in their writings on SR:<br /> 1) ‘For the light itself, the whole universe is only zero millimeters long.’ – Sascha Vongehr, in The Fundamental Nature of Light, Science 2.0 (February 3rd, 2011);<br /> 2) ‘At the speed of light there’s no time to cover any distance, but there’s also no distance to cover.’ – Ask a Mathematician/Ask a Physicist</p> <p>There is a reason as to why scientists do not question this. The reason is that they know very well that they are in the domain of physics, and not in the domain of metaphysics. In the domain of physics, if they want to challenge something, then they cannot do so by using logic and reason only. Rather, they will have to experimentally demonstrate that that particular thing is wrong; they will have to experimentally demonstrate that equations (1) and (2) must be replaced by equations (3) and (4). So far, no one has been able to do this. So far, no one has been able to falsify SR. </p> <p>There is one more reason why we can say that time and distance indeed shrink to zero at light-speed. Main-stream physicists are now saying that spacetime is not fundamental, but emergent. Spacetime is emergent means the source from which spacetime has emerged cannot be within any spacetime, for the simple reason that there cannot be any spacetime prior to its emergence. So, by stating that spacetime is emergent, physicists have already acknowledged the existence of something spaceless and timeless in nature from which our known spacetime has emerged. I know that physicists are describing this source as non-spatiotemporal, but I also know this that ‘non-spatiotemporal’ is only a new scientific term that replaces our old term ‘spaceless and timeless.’ If there is something spaceless and timeless in nature, then it is quite obvious that science would show how anything can be spaceless and timeless, because it is the job of science to provide an explanation for every phenomenon, event and effect in nature. In SR, we get those requisite explanations for spacelessness and timelessness. So, although we cannot directly verify whether time and distance really shrink to zero at light-speed, yet we can say that emergent spacetime is an indirect validation of it.</p> <p>Addendum:<br /> [Once I posted a question in a Facebook Discussion Group (Great Philosophical Questions): ‘If God does not exist, then it can be said that it is the big bang that has brought everyone and everything within the universe into existence. Whatever has been brought into existence by the big bang has been given certain life-span. Many stars in the sky have a life-span of several billion years; we human beings have a life-span of a few decades; some insects have a life-span of a single day only. Can we think of anything that has also been brought into existence by the big bang, but that has been given no life-span?’</p> <p>One commentator Race Dowling replied to the above with this: ‘What you are asking in essence is if anyone provide an example of something that exists that never existed. The answer to that is no.’</p> <p>Me to Race Dowling: ‘You have correctly understood my question, but your answer was incorrect. It is a fact of nature that light has also been brought into existence, but that light has been given no lifetime. As per SR, the travel time and travel distance become zero for light and so, light occupies zero space for zero time. This is as good as saying that light does not exist. But, on the other hand, we cannot see anything without light.’</p> <p>Race Dowling to me: ‘It is a legitimate conjecture that photons have no spatial dimensions along their path of travel making them essentially two dimensional, but it hasn’t been proved. (I wish it were because I postulated that in grad school). Likewise baryons have the appearance of being 4 dimensional as they have spins of ½, you need to rotate them 730 degrees to see the same face. All of these dimensional conjectures are controversial and have their detractors.’ </p> <p>So, I have to write this article in order to making it clear to Dowling that the shrinkage of time and distance to zero at light-speed is neither conjectural nor controversial, after reading which he could not utter a single word against my rebuttal.]</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/168" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Einstein</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/116" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Special theory of relativity</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/315" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Sascha Vongehr</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/259" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spacetime</a></li></ul></div> Mon, 15 Feb 2021 13:17:16 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 587 at /?q=node/587#comments For an extraordinary claim, there is extraordinary evidence /?q=node/581 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>In one YouTube comment thread, someone has written: 'Furthermore, the concept of being spaceless and timeless is the same as not existing at all'.</p> <p>God is said to be spaceless and timeless. As this is an extraordinary claim, so a shred of extraordinary evidence is required for it.</p> <p>Happily, a shred of extraordinary evidence for it has been kept in nature for the non-believers in general by the creative force of the universe. </p> <p>There are two theories in science that are treated by the scientists not only as a theory but as a fact as well. These two theories are Darwin’s theory of evolution and Einstein’s special theory of relativity. Darwin’s theory of evolution is not relevant here for our discussion and so, I will not say anything about it. </p> <p>Below is a quote about the special theory of relativity: </p> <p>‘Special relativity has been exhaustively tested (relativistic effects have been verified all the way down to walking speed), and works so perfectly that it is now held up as the yardstick against which all new theories are tested.’<br /> (Ref: Q: How/Why are Quantum Mechanics and Relativity incompatible? Ask a mathematician/Ask a physicist) </p> <p>In the special theory of relativity (SR), there are two equations that show that at the speed of light time totally stops and that any distance light has to travel becomes zero for it. Even infinite distance becomes zero for light! If a certain volume of space (say, a room) is filled up with light only, then due to these two properties of the light volume of that room would become zero and time also would totally stop there. If the entire universe is filled up with light only, then in that case also the volume of the entire universe would be zero. As zero volume means no space, so in this way, a spaceless and timeless state would obtain. </p> <p>As human beings, we have a physical body. This physical body has a certain volume. So, as human beings, we occupy a certain amount of space within the universe that is equal to the volume of our physical body. And we will occupy that amount of space for so long we will remain alive. </p> <p>If we claim about the light that it is within the space-time of the universe, then we will have to specify these two things about light: how much space does it occupy and for how long does it occupy that space. </p> <p>Let us take one concrete example. A photon coming from a star lying at a distance of ten billion light-years from the earth will take ten billion years of earth’s time to reach the surface of the earth. As per SR, the distance from the place of origin of light to its ultimate destination is zero and time taken for light to arrive at its destination from its place of origin is also zero. That means as per SR there is no space in between the star and the earth for light to exist. Similarly, for light, there is no time to exist because its total travel time has also become zero. So, as per SR for these entire 10 billion years of earth’s time light will occupy zero space for zero time within the space-time of the universe. This is as good as saying that for this entire length of earth’s time light will be neither in space nor in time. Then it will be absorbed by someone or something on the surface of the earth. </p> <p>So, if one claims that for something to exist it must be within some space and time, then as per her light does not exist. </p> <p>However, one can claim that as a theory SR is wrong because it shows light occupies zero space for zero time. In that case, she will have to provide an alternate theory that will replace SR and that will show that light occupies some space for some time. </p> <p>Below is a suggestion on how SR can be modified: </p> <p>So far as I can remember, there are these two equations in Einstein’s special theory of relativity:<br /> l1 = l(1-v2/c2)1/2……. (1)<br /> t1 = t((1-v2/c2)1/2……. (2) </p> <p>From the above two equations two conclusions can be drawn that are as follows:<br /> 1) Time and distance are not absolute, they are relative;<br /> 2) At light speed, both time and distance become unreal. </p> <p>Now reality may be such that<br /> 1) Time and distance are only relative, but nowhere unreal (A),<br /> 2) Time and distance are relative as well as unreal (somewhere) (B). </p> <p>If reality is A, then the above two equations are not required at all to represent that reality; it can be equally represented by the following two equations:<br /> l1 = l(1-v2/xc2)1/2……. (3)<br /> t1 = t((1-v2/xc2)1/2……. (4) </p> <p>In (3) and (4) above, x will have a value greater than one but less than infinity. But it cannot have a value equal to one or infinity. If the value of x is one, then we will go back to Einstein’s equations, whereas if its value equals infinity, then we will have Newton’s equations instead. </p> <p>From (3) and (4) above, it can clearly be seen that time and distance will be relative as before, but they will never be unreal even at the speed of light due to the presence of the factor 1/x in the equations. </p> <p>Newton’s equations have been rejected because now we have come to realize that there are no such things as absolute space or absolute time.</p> <p>If reality is A, but not B, then the time has also come to reject Einstein’s equations as well, and to replace them with (3) and (4) above. </p> <p>Einstein’s equations will be required if, and only if, it is agreed upon that somewhere out there, there is a region where space and time are unreal (an ideal abode for a spaceless and timeless God).</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/168" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Einstein</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/167" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Newton</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/116" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Special theory of relativity</a></li></ul></div> Fri, 29 Nov 2019 07:39:24 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 581 at /?q=node/581#comments Was emergent spacetime fundamental at the beginning of the universe? /?q=node/580 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>In one YouTube comment thread one atheist has remarked that it is really infuriating that all the apologist arguments that he has seen presented so far have ultimately failed to provide any proof for the existence of god. All their arguments are nothing but playing around with definitions of words and literally just throwing an explanation into the gaps of our knowledge, thus showing that every single god argument is essentially a god of the gaps argument, or that they feel good or special by being able to give that argument. Although it is not the case that he does not want there to be a god, yet he hopes that this god will not be the genocidal maniac presented in the Bible. </p> <p>I replied to him in the following manner:</p> <p>‘If there is a God at all, then that God is not the God of this earth only, that God is the God of the entire universe. On this earth, many myths have been created around this God, but these myths cannot have any meaning and significance to the other civilizations, if there are any in the outer space, as the myths if created by the other civilizations in the outer space will not have any meaning and significance to us. So God should not at all be judged by any myths created by any religion on earth. This point should always be remembered. </p> <p>‘Regarding the question as to whether there is any evidence for the existence of God, you can read my article ‘God, the full and final version’ here:</p> <p><a href="; <p>‘However, one cautionary remark here. Please do not try to misinterpret me, either willingly or unwillingly, because atheists are very much prone to do that. In the above article, I have shown as to why a creator of the universe will always be spaceless and timeless. Then I have also shown that scientists in the 21st century have come to the conclusion that spacetime is not fundamental at all and that it has emerged from something non-spatiotemporal/spaceless and timeless in nature. </p> <p>‘So, this much is confirmed by science up till now that there is something spaceless and timeless in nature and I have also shown that God will always be spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>‘Nothing further has been claimed or asserted by me that this shows there is a God. Rather, I have written that in order to come to the conclusion that this spaceless and timeless thing has got consciousness, we will have to wait for the delivery of the requisite goods from the scientists.’ </p> <p>After getting my reply, this atheist becomes silent. But it is not so easy to silence all the atheists at the same time and so there immediately appears another atheist in the scene and states that my understanding of present-day cosmology is biased and outdated. This is because there are at least two cosmological models that do not require a first cause. These are: 1) Hawking’s no boundary proposal and 2) Penrose’s conformal cyclic cosmology. Both of these models are mathematically coherent and the Penrose model may even have some physical evidence. </p> <p>My reply to this atheist was a bit lengthy, but he also became silent after getting the reply. Below it is:</p> <p>‘Your comment shows that perhaps you have not yet fully understood what it means that spacetime is emergent. An entity is emergent means it cannot emerge from just anything or nothing; it can emerge from some pre-existing entity or entities only. In the case of spacetime, this pre-existing entity is something non-spatiotemporal. In brief, we can call it NSE (non-spatiotemporal entity). </p> <p>‘This NSE must be pre-existent in each and every cosmological model of the universe in which it is an accepted fact that the universe is expanding from an initial zero size and that it is not static. In some of the models, the expansion of the universe will stop after some time and then it will begin to contract and eventually it will come to a zero size. From there another phase of the universe will begin. In some other models, this expansion does not stop and nobody knows for how long the universe will go on expanding. But in every cosmological model that has been presented to us so far, this expansion of the universe from an initial zero size is there. That means in each and every cosmological model presented to us, spacetime has a beginning. Spacetime being emergent cannot begin/emerge from anything else other than NSE. Here there will be no beginning of spacetime, rather the emergence of spacetime from some pre-existing entity. </p> <p>‘Here it might be objected: why can it not be the case that spacetime was fundamental at the beginning of the expansion of the universe and that it became emergent later on only? Here our question will be: Not from any theory, but from the external world, can scientists give any concrete evidence that spacetime was fundamental at the beginning of the expansion of the universe? </p> <p>‘Here I will give you one example for making my point clear. In the special theory of relativity, there are two equations that show that at the speed of light time totally stops and that even an infinite distance becomes zero for light. The first one is the scientific explanation for timelessness and the second one is the same for spacelessness. So, it can be said that SR has shown how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless. It can also be shown by some simple logic that a timeless entity is also a deathless entity. So, we can now say SR has shown how it is possible to be spaceless, timeless and immortal. Based on this, can we jump to the conclusion that there is a spaceless, timeless and immortal being, aka God? Will anybody allow us? Will you allow us? </p> <p>‘Here you will say: “We want some concrete evidence that there is a God. Only theory or maths will not do.” </p> <p>‘We are saying the same thing here also: “We want some concrete evidence that spacetime was fundamental at the beginning of the expansion of the universe. Only theory or maths will not do.”’</p> <p>My remark: There is a difference between science and religion. In religion, everything is accepted by faith alone, no evidence being required for any claim made. But in science, this is not so, because in science we do not accept anything by faith; we require some evidence for every claim made by the scientists. So, if scientists now claim that spacetime was fundamental when the universe began to expand, then they must provide some suitable evidence in support of their contention that it was fundamental at that time.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/311" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">The Bible</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/259" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spacetime</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/116" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Special theory of relativity</a></li></ul></div> Thu, 28 Nov 2019 07:14:16 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 580 at /?q=node/580#comments Is there any spacetime outside our universe /?q=node/573 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>From special theory of relativity we come to know that matter and energy are equivalent. And from general theory of relativity we come to know that space, time and matter are interlinked and that there cannot be any space and time without matter. As matter and energy are equivalent, so we can also say here that there cannot be any space and time (or spacetime) without energy. </p> <p>Dr. Sten Odenwald has provided the following information on behalf of NASA Astronomy Cafe, part of the NASA Education and Public Outreach program: </p> <p>‘General relativity tells us that what we call space is just another feature of the gravitational field of the universe, so space and space-time can and do not exist apart from the matter and energy that creates the gravitational field. This is not speculation, but sound observation.’1</p> <p>Here we see what is stated in theory is also supported by sound observation. </p> <p>Below are five links where it has been shown mathematically that the total energy of the universe is zero: </p> <p>1) <a href="; (V. Faraoni and F. I. Cooperstock)<br /> 2) <a href="; (A. A. Sousa; J. S. Moura; R. B. Pereira)<br /> 3) <a href="; (Aron Wall)<br /> 4) <a href="; (Marcelo Samuel Berman)<br /> 5) <a href="; (Johannes Koelman)</p> <p>Below are another six links where also it has been very clearly stated that the total energy of the universe is zero:</p> <p>1) <a href="; (Alexei V. Filippenko and Jay M. Pasachoff)<br /> 2) <a href="; (Stephen Hawking)<br /> 3) <a href=" /> (Richard P Feynman)<br /> 4) <a href="; (Lawrence Krauss)<br /> 5) <a href="; (Paul Davies)<br /> 6) <a href="; (Aron Wall)</p> <p>So we can with some confidence say that the total energy of the universe is indeed zero.</p> <p>So far we have come to know two things:</p> <p>1) There cannot be any space and time without energy; and<br /> 2) The total energy of the universe is zero.</p> <p>Now we want to know as to whether there is any spacetime outside our universe. If we claim that there is, then the question is: Which energy would justify the existence of that spacetime? This is because the universe as a whole does not have any energy. So this universe cannot justify the existence of any spacetime outside it, because without energy there cannot be any spacetime. So it is very much doubtful as to whether there is any spacetime at all outside our universe. As the total energy of the universe has always remained zero, so it is also very much doubtful as to whether there was any spacetime outside our universe at any time. This is as per the knowledge acquired from the present universe.</p> <p>If it is still argued by anybody else that there could be other kinds of spacetime outside our known spacetime about which we do not know anything, then our question to that person will be this: From where has she acquired the knowledge that there can be spacetime without energy? Is it from the present universe? Or is it from some supernatural source? Or is it her own intuition?</p> <p>If there cannot be any spacetime outside our universe, then can there be other universes beyond our universe?</p> <p>Reference:<br /> 1. <a href="; </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/288" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Dr. Sten Odenwald</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/289" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">NASA</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/259" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spacetime</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/116" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Special theory of relativity</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/117" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">General theory of relativity</a></li></ul></div> Tue, 13 Nov 2018 04:02:13 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 573 at /?q=node/573#comments How Atheists Suppress Their Opponent’s Voice /?q=node/553 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>In an earlier article1 I have shown how an atheist tries to suppress his opponent’s voice. Recently I have come across another instance of this. </p> <p>In one YouTube video comment section one person has written that theists are hilarious because they demand evidence for a multiverse, although they cannot provide any evidence for their God. He has also written that at least multiverse has intensely strong mathematical support behind it. </p> <p>In reply I have to write to him that if multiverse has mathematical support behind it, then God also has mathematical support behind him, because two equations of SR have already shown how it is possible to be spaceless, timeless and immortal. I also write to him that scientists are heavily biased and partial in their search for truth, because they consider multiverse as highly probable based on the mathematics of inflation theory, but these same scientists totally ignore God as probable, although there is mathematical support behind God also. </p> <p>Here comes another person saying that I am kidding and that there is no math that even hints at the existence of my particular God and that a fair amount of shoehorning is going on there.</p> <p>As he has commented that there is no math that hints at the existence of my particular God, so I have to explain to him in detail that the two equations of SR shows how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless. As God is called spaceless and timeless and as SR has also shown how a state of spacelessness and timelessness can obtain, so from this it can be said that mathematics of SR suggests it is highly probable there is a God.</p> <p>But this fails to convince him and he sticks to his opinion that I am shoehorning God into science. He also says that if I claim the probable existence of my God in this way, then in a similar way one can also claim the probable existence of other gods like the Greek Primordial Entity Chaos or the Hindu gods Brahma, Vishnu and Shiva, or the Egyptian god Atum, any of which could be this Universe's creator instead of my particular God. </p> <p>So I have to write to him that in the whole history of mankind only one God has been described as spaceless and timeless and that this God is the traditional God of almost all the religions all over the world. I also mention that even mystics have described their God as spaceless and timeless. I also write to him that if one wants to put all the other mythical gods in the same bracket with this traditional God, then one will definitely be mistaken. I also request him to mention one single god other than the traditional God of the religions who has been described as spaceless and timeless.</p> <p>But he does not comply. Rather he asks me to point to the text in my Bible that contains the terms 'timeless' and 'spaceless'. </p> <p>Below are the two replies of mine that have been deleted:</p> <p>Reply one: Perhaps you are not much educated. That is why you think that every person who believes in God is a Christian and that the Bible is his/her religious text. I am a Hindu, but I do not depend on any religious text for my belief. </p> <p>Here is a quote from Dr. William Lane Craig who is well known as a Christian apologist and a good debater: </p> <p>“And then on the rest of the page it’s fairly obvious how I deduce the remainder of these attributes which form the central core of the theistic notion of God: a personal Creator, uncaused, beginningless, changeless, immaterial, timeless, spaceless, enormously powerful, and intelligent. In the words of Thomas Aquinas, this is what everybody means by God.”1 </p> <p>Ref:<br /> 1. <a href="; </p> <p>In the above quote it has been mentioned that God is spaceless and timeless.</p> <p>Reply 2: You can also read the book ‘Mysticism and Philosophy’ by W. T. Stace, Chapter 2, Section 11: Conclusions, pages 131-132, by google search. </p> <p>Ref: WT Stace: Mysticism and Philosophy-wudhi.com</p> <p>As the above two replies of mine have been deleted, so the impression one will get after going through the whole dialogue is that I have failed to establish my point because I could not produce the required text from the Bible which will further imply that the atheist has the last laugh here.</p> <p>The truth is that atheists cannot reconcile themselves to the fact that one scientific theory (SR) has shown how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless and that at the same time religions have also described their God as spaceless and timeless. So either they try to show that SR is not a valid scientific theory2, or they try to show that mystics’ timelessness and scientists’ timelessness are not the same3, or when they cannot do anything of these, they directly suppress their opponent’s voice.</p> <p>Reference:<br /> 1. <a href=" /> 2. <a href=" /> 3. <a href="; </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/148" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Immortal</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/208" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Uncaused</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/209" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Beginningless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/147" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Changeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/149" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Immaterial</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/210" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Intelligent</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-9" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/109" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spacelessness</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-10" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/110" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timelessness</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-11" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/157" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Multiverse</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-12" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/198" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Inflation Theory</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-13" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/116" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Special theory of relativity</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-14" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/211" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Dr. William Lanr Craig</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-15" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/212" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">W. T. Stace</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-16" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/213" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Thomas Aquinas</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-17" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/214" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Greek Primordial Entity Chaos</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-18" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/215" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Brahma</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-19" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/216" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Vishnu</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-20" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/217" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Shiva</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-21" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/218" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Atum</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-22" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/219" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Mysticism and Philosophy</a></li></ul></div> Sun, 02 Apr 2017 13:15:17 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 553 at /?q=node/553#comments Are Scientists Biased? /?q=node/549 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Mathematical equations of SR and their implications are very simple to understand; one’s limited intelligence is sufficient for that purpose and not much help from the big peers is required in this case. These equations show that at the speed of light time totally stops and that even infinite distance becomes zero for light. For light this universe is zero millimeters long and light takes zero time for traversing the entire span of the universe, starting from its one end to the other end. If certain portion of space is filled up with light only, then due to these properties of light volume of that space will be zero and time will also stop there. As zero volume means no space, so in this way a spaceless and timeless state will obtain. If the entire universe is filled up with light only, then in that case the volume of the entire universe will also be zero. That is why it can be said that SR has shown how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless. As God is called spaceless and timeless and as SR has also shown how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless, so from this it can also be said that mathematics of SR suggests it is highly probable that there is a God. Here we are not at all claiming that mathematics of SR shows that there is a God; rather we are merely saying that mathematics of SR suggests it is highly probable that there is a God. So nobody should misunderstand us here, either intentionally or unintentionally. </p> <p>This case is exactly similar to the case of the multiverse. Up till now there is no demonstrable evidence that there are other universes beyond our universe. But there is the inflation theory and its mathematical equations. Here scientists claim that the equations of inflation theory suggest that it is highly probable that there are other universes. If equations of inflation theory can suggest that probably there are other universes, then following the path taken by the scientists we can also equally claim here that equations of SR suggest that probably there is a God. </p> <p>Scientists consider multiverse as highly probable, because mathematics of inflation theory suggests there may be other universes. But these same scientists refuse to consider God as probable, although in this case also there is the mathematical support of SR behind this God. This shows that scientists are heavily biased and partial in their search for truth. </p> <p>If one supports the claim made by the scientists about the probable existence of the multiverse, then how will he/she oppose our claim about the probable existence of God, without being partial and biased?</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/157" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Multiverse</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/116" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Special theory of relativity</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/198" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Inflation Theory</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li></ul></div> Fri, 10 Mar 2017 05:58:42 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 549 at /?q=node/549#comments Is not SR a Valid Scientific Theory? Part I /?q=node/546 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Atheists do have some deep basic convictions. When science does in no way contradict these basic convictions of them, they are whole-heartedly with science. However if any scientific theory contradicts in any way any single basic conviction of them, they do not hesitate to go against science.</p> <p>The two most basic convictions of the atheists are:<br /> • There is nothing supernatural; and<br /> • Whatever exists, exists within space-time only. So nothing can exist outside space-time.</p> <p>However SR has shown that light exists neither in space nor in time, because travel time and travel distance become zero for light. So for light there is neither any space to exist nor any time to exist. This directly contradicts one of the two basic convictions of the atheists that nothing can exist outside space-time. So the attitude of the atheists towards SR is really very peculiar and ambiguous as will be evident from the interactions that I had with some atheists.</p> <p>In one YouTube comment section one atheist wrote that if space-time began, there is no room for a deity. From here started the exchange of arguments and counterarguments between the two of us.</p> <p>Me<br /> ‘If space-time began, there’s no room for a deity.’</p> <p>This is not true. If this deity is spaceless and timeless, then it can exist spacelessly and timelessly without needing any space-time for it to exit.</p> <p>The atheist<br /> “If this deity is spaceless and timeless” Then definitionally it doesn’t exist. Do you understand? Existence means within space-time. There is nothing “outside”. That’s a comparative concept that doesn’t apply.</p> <p>Me<br /> Please read the article “The Fundamental Nature of Light” by Dr. Sascha Vongehr in Science 2.0 (February 3rd, 2011) here:</p> <p><a href="; <p>There it has been shown that light exists for zero time in zero space, because as per the special theory of relativity both the travel time and the travel distance becomes zero for light. Therefore as per SR light is in no space for no time. So will you say that light does not exist? Here is an example: A photon coming from a star lying at a distance of one billion light-years from the earth will take one billion years of earth’s time to reach the surface of the earth. But from the reference frame of light the distance from the star to the earth is zero. This is as per one of the equations of SR. So as per SR there is no space in between the star and the earth for light to exist. Similarly for light there is no time to exist, because from its own reference frame the travel time has also become zero for it.</p> <p>The atheist<br /> “There it has been shown that light exists for zero time in zero space” Well.. that’s fundamentally wrong.. and we have been able to slow down photons and examine them, you know.</p> <p>“So will you say that light does not exist?” We have a specific definition for the em spectrum, and we measure it.</p> <p>“But from the reference frame of light” Heh.. light doesn’t have a reference frame. That’s another place you went wrong.</p> <p>“Similarly for light there is no time to exist, because from its own reference frame the travel time has also become zero for it.” You understand that traveling at lightspeed isn’t going to matter when you are playing these imaginary games, right? Everything moves at the speed of light if you use light as a reference point. Can you see how that just doesn’t work? Also, you assume


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11Prompt - Matter /?q=taxonomy/term/118 en The One /?q=node/601 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>The two theories of special and general relativity clearly show the relationship between space, time, energy, and matter. Special relativity has shown that energy and matter are equivalent; energy can be converted into matter, and matter into energy. Again, general relativity shows that space, time, and matter are so interrelated that there cannot be any space-time without matter; similarly, there cannot be any matter without soace-time. </p> <p>Since there cannot be any space-time without matter, and since there can neither be any matter without soace-time, therefore it can be asserted that space-time and matter have originated from one single source only. If the source of space-time and the source of matter were different, then there could not be such an interrelation between space-time and matter. Again, since energy and matter are identical, therefore we can assert that space, time, energy, and matter have originated from one single source only. </p> <p>This interrelation between space-time and matter shows us that at the root of all things is the One, and that One is neither space, nor time, nor energy, nor matter, though space, time, energy, and matter have originated from that One only. If that One is neither space, nor time, nor energy, nor matter, then what is that One? It is not possible for anyone to say anything about that One, which is why Indian philosophy has only said neti, neti about that One; it is not this, it is not that, etc.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/116" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Special theory of relativity</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/117" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">General theory of relativity</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/340" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">The One</a></li></ul></div> Sun, 11 Aug 2024 07:14:29 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 601 at /?q=node/601#comments Spaceless, Timeless, and Immaterial /?q=node/592 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>1) Physicists have shown that the total energy of the universe is zero.<br /> 2) SR has shown that mass and energy are equivalent.<br /> 3) Again GR has shown that space, time, and matter are so interlinked that there cannot be any spacetime without matter; similarly, there cannot be any matter without spacetime. There is a saying of Einstein on this: "When forced to summarize the general theory of relativity in one sentence: Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter." (Source: Google search) </p> <p>Based on the three above, it can be shown that the universe as a whole is spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. </p> <p>The total energy of the universe being zero, it can be shown that its total matter is also zero. </p> <p>The famous equation of Einstein from SR shows that E is equal to m multiplied by c squared. If E is zero now, then m will be equal to zero divided by c squared, which will also be zero. So, the total energy of the universe being zero, Einstein's famous equation shows that in that case, the total mass of the universe will also be zero. </p> <p>Now, the below portion is from Google search:<br /> //What is mass in Physics with example? Mass can be best understood as the amount of matter present in any object or body. For example, a table, a chair, your bed, a football, a glass, and even air has mass. ... That being said, all objects are light or heavy because of their mass.// </p> <p>As the total mass of the universe is zero, so the total amount of matter present in the universe will also be zero.</p> <p>As the total matte of the universe is zero, so we can say that the universe as a whole is immaterial.</p> <p>If the total matter of the universe is zero, its total spacetime will also be zero because as per GR, there cannot be any spacetime without matter. </p> <p>What does it mean that the total spacetime of the universe is zero? It means that the universe as a whole is spaceless and timeless, or non-spatiotemporal, if we use the new scientific term that has replaced the old one spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>We have already seen that the universe as a whole is immaterial. Now we have seen that it is also spaceless and timeless. So, we can say that the universe as a whole is spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. </p> <p>Again, the total energy of the universe always remains zero. Therefore, the universe as a whole will always remain spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. </p> <p>That means the universe as a whole does not change at all. </p> <p>As the universe as a whole does not change at all, so we can say that the universe as a whole is spaceless, timeless, changeless, and immaterial.</p> <p>That nicely explains why the wave function of the universe does not contain any time variable.</p> <p>However, the above conclusion will be falsified if anybody in the near or distant future can show that the total energy of the universe has a non-zero value.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/320" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Physicists</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/321" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Wave Function</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-9" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/149" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Immaterial</a></li></ul></div> Thu, 15 Jul 2021 15:12:26 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 592 at /?q=node/592#comments Why total energy of the universe can never be other than zero /?q=node/568 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>In an earlier article ‘Is the total energy of the universe zero?’1 I have already shown as to why the total energy of the universe would be zero. But there is one deep metaphysical reason that surpasses all the earlier reasons, as to why this total energy can never be other than zero.</p> <p>In another article ‘Existence of anything can ultimately point to God’2 I have also shown that if anything exists at all then ultimately there would have to be something that would be neither in space nor in time, as otherwise there would be an infinite regress.</p> <p>So our starting point would be this: If anything exists, if even a single speck of dust exists, then ultimately there would have to be something that would be neither in space nor in time. </p> <p>Here it may be asked: why should we stop an infinite regress? There is one practical reason as to why we should stop it. If we decide that instead of stopping it we would rather go up to infinity, then we would never be able to reach this present moment from that infinite past moment, because infinite time is such that it can never be bridged. If infinite time can be bridged, then it is not an infinite time, rather a finite time only.</p> <p>There is one more reason as to why there cannot be an infinite regress of any natural cause. A natural cause (A) that can bring the universe into existence through one step (cause and effect) only is more efficient than the natural cause (B) that would require at least two steps for doing the same. Conversely we can say that B is less efficient than A, because B requires two steps whereas in a similar situation A requires one step only. So a natural cause that would require infinite number of steps for bringing the universe into existence would be infinitely less efficient than A. A cause that is infinitely less efficient has practically zero efficiency, because inverse of infinity is zero. A cause that has zero efficiency cannot bring anything into existence, not to say a universe. </p> <p>[The truth that there can never be an infinite regress because no causal chain can extend up to infinity can be called “Truth of all truths”, because from this basic truth other truths can be derived.] </p> <p>So our conclusion is this: Ultimate reality – whatever that ultimate reality may be - can never be within any space and time. Ultimate reality is that reality beyond which there would be absolutely nothing.</p> <p>Ultimate reality will be thus spaceless and timeless. Being spaceless and timeless it cannot be material. This is as per GR. GR has shown that space, time and matter are interlinked. So either all the three of them would be there together or none of them would be there. As ultimate reality is not within any space and time so there would be only the ultimate reality and no space and time. As there would be no space and time, so the ultimate reality cannot be material.</p> <p>Ultimate reality being thus immaterial its total energy would be zero. This is because matter and energy are equivalent and so, zero matter would mean zero energy.</p> <p>As ultimate reality is the source from which everything has originated, so the total energy of the universe would also be zero, because universe cannot have more energy than the source from which it has originated.</p> <p>However, the above does not give us the reason as to why the total energy of the universe should be zero; rather we have to find out merely by observation that its total energy is zero, because by observation only we can come to know that space, time and matter are interlinked. But if we assume that the universe has been created by a supernatural agent, then we will get that ultimate reason as to why its total energy cannot be other than zero. This has already been explained by me here.3 However I will very briefly repeat my arguments here.</p> <p>1) God being the creator would be prior to the creation of the universe;</p> <p>2) Universe primarily means its space, time, matter and energy;</p> <p>3) As God is prior to the creation of energy, so God cannot contain any energy;</p> <p>4) So neither the universe can contain any energy, because universe cannot have more energy than the source from which it has originated. </p> <p>I have already said it earlier4 and again I am saying it here that only a created universe gives us at least one particular reason as to why its total energy cannot be other than zero. But an uncreated universe gives us absolutely no reason why its total energy should also be zero. </p> <p>This also shows as to why space and time can neither be fundamental, because the source from which space and time have originated does not contain any space and time.</p> <p>Now we can summarize the whole thing:</p> <p>1) There can never be an infinite regress, because in that case ultimately nothing would exist;</p> <p>2) But we know something exists;</p> <p>3) So we must stop this infinite regress by any means whenever and wherever we will encounter such a regress;</p> <p>4) But in order to stop this infinite regress we would have to posit the existence of a spaceless and timeless entity that would stop this regress;</p> <p>5) Denying the existence of this spaceless and timeless entity would mean we are admitting there is an infinite regress;</p> <p>6) That would further mean we are admitting nothing exists;</p> <p>7) As it is contradictory to our experience that nothing exists, so we are ultimately compelled to admit that a spaceless and timeless entity also necessarily exists that stops the infinite regress;</p> <p>8) This spaceless and timeless entity is the ultimate reason why anything exists; </p> <p>9) Although it is the cause behind everything that exists, but itself it is not caused by anything;</p> <p>10) Being the ultimate reality, it would be the end-point of all existence. So there would be absolutely nothing beyond it that could have been the cause of it.</p> <p>Now this much is left for us to show as to whether this spaceless and timeless entity is also a conscious entity. </p> <p>Reference:<br /> 1. <a href=" /> 2. <a href=" /> 3. <a href=" /> 4. <a href="; </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/283" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Ultimate reality</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/284" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Infinite regresss</a></li></ul></div> Thu, 27 Sep 2018 06:36:40 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 568 at /?q=node/568#comments Zero-energy universe gives us one more reason for believing in the existence of God /?q=node/560 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Scientists have found that the total energy of the universe is zero. From there they have argued that the universe might have originated from nothing due to quantum energy fluctuation in a void, no God being needed for its creation. But I think zero-energy universe gives us one more reason for believing in the existence of God. </p> <p>If God is the creator, then he would be prior to the existence of space, time and matter. That is the reason we describe God as spaceless, timeless and immaterial. However one element is missing here: energy. God would be prior to the existence of energy also.</p> <p>God being prior to space, time, matter and energy would be neither space, nor time, nor matter, nor energy, but something beyond them. That means in God there can be neither any space, nor any time, nor any matter, nor any energy. </p> <p>If it is now true that energy can neither be created nor destroyed, then it would be true for God as well. This is because God being the law-giver we should not expect that God would break his own laws very frequently. So God would have to manage the entire creation event with zero energy.</p> <p>However if the universe is not created, then there is no reason as to why the universe as a whole cannot have total non-zero energy value. As some atheistic scientists claim that quantum laws were always there, so in a similar manner some sort of energy might have been always there. Universe would begin its life with that energy and it would also contain that much of energy as a whole.</p> <p>So, if the universe is created, then there would be at least one constraint due to which the universe can never have any energy, this constraint being God. In the other case there would be no such constraint and so the universe can freely have total non-zero energy.</p> <p>Here my questions are two:</p> <p>1) If quantum laws could have been always there, then why not energy?</p> <p>2) So, what are the compelling factors due to which even an uncreated universe cannot have total non-zero energy?</p> <p>Actually we can think of two different situations regarding the beginning of the universe:</p> <p>Situation 1: There would be no energy before the beginning. This would be the case if the universe is created by God. Here the universe would start from zero energy and therefore it makes sense that the total energy of the universe would always remain zero, because energy can neither be created nor destroyed.</p> <p>Situation 2: There would be energy before the beginning. This would be the case if the universe originated from a singularity. Here the universe would start from non-zero energy (energy contained in singularity) and therefore it does not make any sense that the total energy of the universe would remain zero in this case also.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/161" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Scientists</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/256" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Quantum energy fluctuation</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/63" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Creation</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-9" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/241" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Quantum Laws</a></li></ul></div> Thu, 18 Jan 2018 04:30:02 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 560 at /?q=node/560#comments Atheist Using Double Standard for Ascertaining Truth /?q=node/558 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Recently I have some communications with an atheist.</p> <p>He has written that there is a magic leprechaun who created the universe. He has also written that he has evidence for it, because he has a book which says so.</p> <p>So I have to ask him as to whether his magic leprechaun is spaceless, timeless and immaterial, because otherwise his magic leprechaun cannot be the creator of the universe because of the following reason: </p> <p>Logic dictates that a creator will always precede its creation. As universe primarily means its space, time, matter and energy, so universe created by magic leprechaun will mean its space, time, matter and energy have been created by magic leprechaun. That will further mean that before creation by magic leprechaun there was no space, no time, no matter and no energy. That will again mean that before creation magic leprechaun was in no space and time and that magic leprechaun did not contain any matter and energy. So a magic leprechaun who is the creator of the universe will always be spaceless, timeless and immaterial. Therefore a magic leprechaun who is not spaceless, timeless and immaterial will fail to qualify himself as a probable candidate for the post of the creator of the universe.</p> <p>In reply he informs me that this magic leprechaun comes from another universe and that he created this universe. He also writes that it is all in the book and that it makes more sense than the Biblical God. He also states that if something (or someone) is spaceless, timeless and immaterial, then it doesn't exist, because there is no space where that something exists, there was no time that it existed and there is no material where that something exists of. So as per him something cannot exist without space, time and / or matter.</p> <p>In reply I have to write to him that he has no idea about what it actually means to be spaceless nad timeless. For him spaceless and timeless means to be in no space for no time and therefore something that is spaceless and timeless does not exist at all. But actually it means something else. I present the following argument to him:</p> <p>Whatever exists within the universe exists within space-time. But what about the universe itself? Does it exist within some higher space-time? Is there any space-time beyond the universe? If there is no space-time beyond the universe, then universe as a whole does not exist within any space-time. In that case shall we say that the universe does not exist? </p> <p>Then I have given him one example also: </p> <p>We also know that the universe is expanding. Now if one asks any cosmologist this question that what it is expanding into, they will always reply that it is not expanding into anything, because the universe is not embedded into any higher space-time. Their answer is fully consistent with the big bang theory. Big bang theory says that space-time began along with the big bang only. That means big bang did not occur within any pre-existing space-time, because there was no space-time before the big bang. Therefore neither is the universe expanding within any pre-existing space-time. So, here cosmologists are also saying the same thing that the universe as a whole is not within any space-time. Again I ask him the same question: can we say that the universe does not exist because it is not expanding within any space-time? </p> <p>In reply the atheist confirms that the universe does exist, because as per him the universe IS space time and matter. He states that as far as all of us know, there is nothing outside of our universe. So he thinks that it is indeed fully consistent with the Big bang theory. He also states that outside the universe there is no space and time where anything can exist and that therefore probably nothing exists without our universe.</p> <p>In reply I have to write to him that everybody knows that universe is space, time and matter. But I have to give him a reminder that here the question is something else and that it is this: within which space-time does the universe as a whole exist if there is no space-time outside the universe? I have to repeat to him that his concept that spaceless and timeless means existing in no space for no time applies equally to the universe as well, because the universe as a whole is not within any space-time. I also write to him that in whichever way he will try to suppress this truth that the universe is not within any space-time, he will fail. </p> <p>In reply he writes that there is a council of gods existing without time, space and matter, spending no time doing nothing no-where. He also writes that these gods never showed any interest in him or his well being. So, he guesses that the god(s) have better things to do with their no time, and that he will try to spend his time as good as possible, because he has to deal with time as because he is in the universe. He also requests me that in case I meet one or more gods, then I should tell them that he would really like to meet them. This is because he is very curious how it is to live without space and time.</p> <p>In reply I have to write to him that his last comment shows that either he is a dogmatic person, or that his intelligence level is low. So either he refuses to understand (due to his dogmatism), or he fails to understand (due to his low level of intelligence) that whatever may be the ultimate reality, that ultimate reality can never be within any space and time.</p> <p>Here the communication ends. </p> <p>Here the atheist is clearly using double standard for ascertaining truth; he is using one standard for God and another standard for the universe. For him existence means existing within some space-time. So for him God does not exist because God is not within any space and time. But for him the universe exists, although as per the cosmologists neither is the universe within any space-time, because it is not expanding into anything. So as per his own standard he should also say that the universe does not exist. But he does not say so. </p> <p>So his using double standard for ascertaining truth is quite apparent.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/254" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Biblical God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/255" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Magic Leprechaun</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/149" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Immaterial</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-9" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-10" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li></ul></div> Sun, 24 Sep 2017 05:22:00 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 558 at /?q=node/558#comments What will be the total energy of the universe if created by God? /?q=node/554 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>It can be shown that the total energy of the universe would also be zero if it is created by some supernatural agent. Let us say that this supernatural agent is God. Now what does it mean that the universe has been created by God? As universe primarily means its space, time, matter and energy, so universe created by God will mean its space, time, matter and energy have been created by God. That will further mean that before creation by God there was no space, no time, no matter and no energy. That will again mean that God was in no space and time and that God did not contain any matter and energy. That is the reason as to why theists always describe their God as spaceless, timeless and immaterial. (There are some atheists who failing to grasp this simple logic raise question about this spaceless, timeless and immaterial God. But a creator God can never be anything other than spaceless, timeless and immaterial, because this is the one and only one logically possible consequence of being the creator of a universe.) Neither this spaceless, timeless and immaterial God can contain any energy, because energy was also created by God only along with the creation of the universe. That means the total energy content of God is zero. Therefore the total energy content of the universe will also be zero, because universe cannot contain more energy than the source from which it has originated.</p> <p>Here it might be objected that neither energy nor matter can be created or destroyed. But if we keep in mind that the total energy of the universe has always remained fixed at its zero value, then we can say that as such energy has not been created or destroyed at all. Only that it has taken positive and negative forms in the universe, the total energy always remaining zero. The same can be said about matter also.</p> <p>This once again shows that the reasoning of Lawrence Krauss is faulty when he has argued that as because the total energy of the universe has been found to be zero, so from this it can be concluded that the universe has originated from nothing.1 But here we have shown that the total energy of the universe will also be zero even if it is created by God. So once again it is established that zero total energy cannot be the only criterion on the basis of which it can be concluded that the universe has originated from nothing.</p> <p>Reference:<br /> 1. <a href="; </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/149" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Immaterial</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-9" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/63" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Creation</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-10" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/220" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Lawrence Krauss</a></li></ul></div> Sun, 09 Apr 2017 05:39:31 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 554 at /?q=node/554#comments Biggest Blunder Committed by Science /?q=node/551 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>I think the biggest blunder science has committed is this: it has shown how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless. Why? This is because when theists bring their God in the picture at all, they bring him in as the creator of the universe, not as a mere observer. As universe primarily means its space, time, matter and energy, so God as the supposed creator of the universe is the creator of space, time, matter and energy. That means before creation by God there cannot be any space, time, matter and energy. That will further mean the creator God can never be in any space and time and neither can the creator God contain any matter or energy. That is why creator of the universe will always necessarily have to be spaceless, timeless and immaterial; it can never be otherwise. So once scientists have shown how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless, they will no longer be able to convince us that this spaceless and timeless God cannot exist. All their efforts will be futile and all their arguments against this creator God will fall on deaf ears only.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/63" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Creation</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-9" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/149" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Immaterial</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-10" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/196" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Theists</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-11" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/161" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Scientists</a></li></ul></div> Wed, 22 Mar 2017 04:32:59 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 551 at /?q=node/551#comments Is the Universe Immaterial? /?q=node/550 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>We already know that the total energy of the universe is zero. We also know that matter and energy are equivalent. From these can we conclude that the total matter of the universe is also zero? Scientist Vector J Stenger thought so. Here is a quote:</p> <p>‘E=mc2 says matter and energy are the same entity. Since E=0, the total matter of the universe is zero. Zero does not have to come from anything.</p> <p>‘Now, if by matter you just mean the equivalent of rest energy, then that came from gravitational energy during the expansion in the early universe.’</p> <p>– Vic Stenger, having been asked for a simple explanation to the question, “where did all the matter come from?” to a letter to Cliff Walker (September 11, 2001).1</p> <p>But not everyone thinks so; there are other voices also. As per them it cannot be said that the total matter of the universe is zero simply because its total energy is zero. Actually matter in the universe counts for positive energy and gravity counts for negative energy. So when we add this positive energy of matter with the negative energy of gravity, we arrive at a total energy of zero for the universe. But matter in itself has a non-zero value in the universe.</p> <p>So I think the whole issue needs re-examination.</p> <p>I think I have already made the point clear that the beginning of the universe will always mean that it will begin from zero space, zero time, zero matter and zero energy.2 Therefore the total space, total time, total matter and total energy of the universe should also always have to be zero, because nothing in the universe can come from outside. So, if the universe has a beginning, then its total matter will obviously be zero. This is as per logic.</p> <p>Now we can also give scientific reason as to why the total matter of the universe will have to be zero.</p> <p>How is the zero total energy of the universe arrived at? Here matter is treated as positive energy and gravity is treated as negative energy. When we add this positive energy of matter with the negative energy of gravity, we get zero total energy for the universe.</p> <p>But energy cannot be directly deducted from matter. Neither can matter be directly deducted from energy. We will have to bring both of them into the same category before making any such addition or subtraction. We will have to convert either matter into energy or energy into matter. In the above case matter has been converted into energy and this energy is treated as positive energy. From this positive energy negative energy of gravity is subtracted.</p> <p>Now instead of converting matter into energy, if we convert negative gravitational energy into matter, then we will get negative matter. If we now subtract this negative matter from the positive matter, then we will arrive at the total zero matter of the universe.</p> <p>So both from the point of view of logic as well as from the point of view of science we can say that the total matter of the universe is zero.</p> <p>Actually if we say that the total energy of the universe is zero and if matter and energy are also equivalent, then why can we not say that the total matter of the universe is zero?</p> <p>As the total matter of the universe is zero, so can we not say that the universe as a whole is immaterial?</p> <p>Reference:</p> <p>1. Positive atheism quotes of Victor J. Stenger, <a href=" /> 2. <a href="; </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/199" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Gravity</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/149" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Immaterial</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/162" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Victor J Stenger</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/200" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">ClifWalker</a></li></ul></div> Mon, 20 Mar 2017 05:42:51 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 550 at /?q=node/550#comments What does the Beginning of the Universe actually mean? /?q=node/548 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>The reason as to why theists call their God spaceless, timeless and immaterial is due to the recognition of the fact that if the universe has a beginning, then that beginning can never be from a source that already contained space, time, matter and energy. </p> <p>Universe primarily means its space, time, matter and energy. Therefore when we say that the universe has a beginning, we mean to say that its space, time, matter and energy have a beginning. Now the question is: can the universe have a beginning from a source that already contained space, time, matter and energy? If the source already contained space, time, matter and energy, then that would mean that space, time, matter and energy were already there. If space, time, matter and energy were already there, then that would further mean that the universe was already there. If the universe was already there, then why do we again say that the universe has a beginning?</p> <p>The above reasoning shows that if the universe has a beginning at all, then that beginning can never be from a source that already contained space, time, matter and energy because in that case it will imply that the universe was already there. Therefore the beginning of the universe will always mean that it can begin from zero space, zero time, zero matter and zero energy only. As the universe can begin from zero space, zero time, zero matter and zero energy only, so the total space, total time, total matter and total energy of the universe should always remain zero, as otherwise one will have to explain as to whence appear the extra space, extra time, extra matter and extra energy that were not already there at the beginning. </p> <p>So for a universe having a beginning this question must have an answer: how does the total space-time of an ever-expanding universe always remain zero? </p> <p>Only a beginningless, eternal universe will not give us any such trouble.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/149" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Immaterial</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/196" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Theists</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/197" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Beginning of the universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-9" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-10" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li></ul></div> Thu, 23 Feb 2017 03:48:58 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 548 at /?q=node/548#comments God cannot be defined, God's Attributes can only be described /?q=node/535 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Atheists sometimes object that there is no clear definition of a god/God. Here I want to say very clearly that God cannot be defined, God's attributes can only be described. If God is the creator of the universe, then from this it follows that before creation God was alone and that there was no one else, nothing else other than God. As universe means space, time, matter and energy, so from this it follows that before creation there was no space, no time, no matter and no energy. That means God was neither in any space nor in any time and that God could contain neither any matter nor any energy, because before creation there was no space, no time, no matter and no energy. Being neither in space nor in time God will be thus spaceless and timeless. Containing neither any matter nor any energy God will be thus immaterial and his total energy will be zero. All these directly follow from the statement that God is the creator of the universe. By simple logic it can also be shown that this God being spaceless and timeless will also have the following attributes: God will be changeless, immortal, all-pervading, one, unborn, uncreated, without any beginning, without an end, everlasting and non-composite. </p> <p>Some believers also say that God is omnipotent and omniscient; he/she/it is all-powerful and all-knowing. But I do not think so. God being the creator of the universe must have necessary power and knowledge for creating it. Otherwise how has God created the universe? But I do not think that solely due to this reason God can be called omnipotent and omniscient. </p> <p>Thus the complete description of the creator of the universe will be this: God is spaceless, timeless, changeless, immortal, all-pervading, one, unborn, uncreated, without any beginning, without an end, everlasting, non-composite and immaterial. </p> <p>Whatever else has been said about this God is just wishful thinking.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/63" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Creation</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subje


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11Prompt - Timeless /?q=taxonomy/term/122 en Is mystical experience a hallucination? /?q=node/594 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Mystics who have claimed that they have a direct vision of God<br /> have always described that God as spaceless and timeless. But mystical experiences have been discarded by secular-minded people as merely a hallucination. </p> <p>Here is a Medical Definition of Hallucination: A profound distortion in a person's perception of reality, typically accompanied by a powerful sense of reality. A hallucination may be a sensory experience in which a person can see, hear, smell, taste, or feel something that is not there. </p> <p>That means a person having a hallucinatory experience cannot have any knowledge about reality.</p> <p>Physicists in this 21st century are saying that spacetime is emergent. For example, theoretical physicist Sean Carroll who once wrote an article showing that God is not a good theory has recently published a book whose title is this: Something deeply hidden: quantum worlds and the emergence of spacetime. </p> <p>Spacetime is emergent means there is something more fundamental than spacetime from which spacetime has emerged. This something more fundamental than spacetime cannot be within any spacetime. That is because there cannot be any spacetime before its emergence. As it cannot be within any spacetime, so it will be spaceless and timeless. However, physicists describe this as non-spatiotemporal, a new scientific term that replaces old spaceless and timeless. Space and time were two different entities in the pre-relativistic era. In the post-relativistic one, they have become one single entity: spacetime. So physicists can no longer use the old term spaceless and timeless; instead, they use the new term non-spatiotemporal. </p> <p>That means physicists are now saying that there is something spaceless and timeless from which our known spacetime has emerged. </p> <p>Now, my question is: If mystics had seen only a hallucination, then how did they come to know that there was something spaceless and timeless long before physicists had come to know that? That is because, as per definition, a hallucination cannot give any knowledge about reality.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/143" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Mystics</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/144" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Hallucination</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/312" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Sean Carroll</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/326" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Emergence of spacetime</a></li></ul></div> Sat, 07 Aug 2021 13:23:03 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 594 at /?q=node/594#comments Spaceless, Timeless, and Immaterial /?q=node/592 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>1) Physicists have shown that the total energy of the universe is zero.<br /> 2) SR has shown that mass and energy are equivalent.<br /> 3) Again GR has shown that space, time, and matter are so interlinked that there cannot be any spacetime without matter; similarly, there cannot be any matter without spacetime. There is a saying of Einstein on this: "When forced to summarize the general theory of relativity in one sentence: Time and space and gravitation have no separate existence from matter." (Source: Google search) </p> <p>Based on the three above, it can be shown that the universe as a whole is spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. </p> <p>The total energy of the universe being zero, it can be shown that its total matter is also zero. </p> <p>The famous equation of Einstein from SR shows that E is equal to m multiplied by c squared. If E is zero now, then m will be equal to zero divided by c squared, which will also be zero. So, the total energy of the universe being zero, Einstein's famous equation shows that in that case, the total mass of the universe will also be zero. </p> <p>Now, the below portion is from Google search:<br /> //What is mass in Physics with example? Mass can be best understood as the amount of matter present in any object or body. For example, a table, a chair, your bed, a football, a glass, and even air has mass. ... That being said, all objects are light or heavy because of their mass.// </p> <p>As the total mass of the universe is zero, so the total amount of matter present in the universe will also be zero.</p> <p>As the total matte of the universe is zero, so we can say that the universe as a whole is immaterial.</p> <p>If the total matter of the universe is zero, its total spacetime will also be zero because as per GR, there cannot be any spacetime without matter. </p> <p>What does it mean that the total spacetime of the universe is zero? It means that the universe as a whole is spaceless and timeless, or non-spatiotemporal, if we use the new scientific term that has replaced the old one spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>We have already seen that the universe as a whole is immaterial. Now we have seen that it is also spaceless and timeless. So, we can say that the universe as a whole is spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. </p> <p>Again, the total energy of the universe always remains zero. Therefore, the universe as a whole will always remain spaceless, timeless, and immaterial. </p> <p>That means the universe as a whole does not change at all. </p> <p>As the universe as a whole does not change at all, so we can say that the universe as a whole is spaceless, timeless, changeless, and immaterial.</p> <p>That nicely explains why the wave function of the universe does not contain any time variable.</p> <p>However, the above conclusion will be falsified if anybody in the near or distant future can show that the total energy of the universe has a non-zero value.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/320" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Physicists</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/321" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Wave Function</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-9" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/149" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Immaterial</a></li></ul></div> Thu, 15 Jul 2021 15:12:26 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 592 at /?q=node/592#comments God is not Purely Imaginary /?q=node/589 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>God is not purely imaginary, because God has also been described as spaceless and timeless.</p> <p>In this 21st century, physicists are no longer saying that spacetime is fundamental; rather, they are saying that it is emergent. </p> <p>If an entity is emergent, then in general, that will mean these three things:<br /> 1) The emergent entity cannot have any existence prior to its emergence.<br /> 2) The emergent entity (A) cannot emerge from just anything or nothing; it can emerge from some particular entity or entities (B) only.<br /> 3) B must pre-exist before the emergence of A. </p> <p>The above three will also be true for emergent spacetime as well. </p> <p>Spacetime is emergent means the source from which spacetime has emerged cannot be within any spacetime, for the simple reason that there cannot be any spacetime prior to its emergence. Physicists are describing this source as non-spatiotemporal. </p> <p>'Non-spatiotemporal' is the new scientific term for the old term 'spaceless and timeless'. The special theory of relativity has combined the two separate entities space and time into one single entity: spacetime. So, scientists can no longer use the old term ‘spaceless and timeless’; instead, they use the new term ‘non-spatiotemporal’. </p> <p>So, emergent spacetime has shown that there is something spaceless and timeless (aka, non-spatiotemporal) in nature from which our known spacetime has emerged. </p> <p>This is the objectively real part in man's imagination of God.</p> <p>As we have come to know that spacetime is not fundamental but emergent, so some questions arise here that are given below: </p> <p>1) Was spacetime fundamental or emergent when the universe began to expand from the Big Bang?<br /> 2) If it was fundamental, then is there any scientific evidence in support of it? If yes, then how did scientists get that evidence? And also, from where did they get that evidence?<br /> 3) If it was fundamental, then how and when has it become emergent by losing its fundamental nature?<br /> 4) However, if it was emergent, then would it not require the prior presence of NSE from which only it could emerge? </p> <p>Moreover, if an entity is emergent, then how can it be the case that it was fundamental at an earlier time, and that it has become emergent afterwards by losing its fundamental nature? Would it not be more reasonable to assume that if it is emergent now, then earlier also it was emergent, and that it will remain so in future as well? </p> <p>One can easily understand what will be the implication of this. Spacetime being emergent, would require the prior presence of this NSE for its emergence from it, when the universe began expanding from the Big Bang. </p> <p>In the CCC model of Roger Penrose, this NSE would have to be eternal and everlasting, because every time a big bang has occurred or will occur, whether in the infinite past, or in the far distant future, spacetime would have required, or would require, the prior presence of this NSE for its emergence from it.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/145" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Big Bang</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/269" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Non-spatiotemporal</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/317" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Roger Penrose</a></li></ul></div> Wed, 24 Mar 2021 10:33:55 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 589 at /?q=node/589#comments The Ultimate Justification for a Creator /?q=node/588 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Part I</p> <p>Two reasons can be given as to why an entity may be spaceless and timeless: </p> <p>1) Reason A: If the entity is not within any space and time, then it will naturally be spaceless and timeless. We can also say that it will be spaceless and timeless by default; </p> <p>2) Reason B: If the entity is placed within some space and time, and if it is forcefully deprived of space and time, then also it will become spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>For 1), we can give the example of the entity from which our known spacetime has emerged. In this 21st century, physicists are no more saying that spacetime is fundamental; rather, they are saying it is emergent. Spacetime is emergent means the source from which spacetime has emerged cannot be within any spacetime, for the simple reason that there cannot be any spacetime prior to its emergence. So, not being within any spacetime, it will naturally be spaceless and timeless. However, physicists are describing it not as spaceless and timeless, but as non-spatiotemporal. Whatever may be the nomenclature, the concept remains the same in both cases; the source from which spacetime has emerged is not within any spacetime and so, it is naturally non-spatiotemporal/spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>For 2), we can give the example of black hole singularities. Earlier, it was known to us that black hole singularities were point-like. Now it has been known that they are not point-like but rather one dimensional ring-like. In case of black hole singularities, whether they are point-like or ring-like, space and time almost contract to zero due to a tremendous gravitational force. </p> <p>Now suppose there is one more entity within the universe that is also spaceless and timeless, but for which neither Reason A nor Reason B can be thought of as its cause. Here I am speaking about light. Light is within the universe, but as per SR both the travel distance and the travel time become zero for light. So, within the space and time of the universe, light occupies zero space for zero time, which is tantamount to saying that light is spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>Can we say that light is spaceless and timeless due to Reason A? No, we cannot say so, because we know very well that light is within the space and time of the universe. </p> <p>Can we say that light is spaceless and timeless due to Reason B? No, we cannot say so, because we are not aware of any force that is active in case of light causing space and time contract to zero for light. </p> <p>If light is spaceless and timeless neither due to Reason A, nor due to Reason B, then what is the reason due to which it is so? </p> <p>Moreover, no black hole is as big as the universe. So, the length that is almost contracted to zero in case of black hole singularities is nothing compared to the entire width of the universe. But for light, the entire width of the universe is contracted to zero. If a tremendous gravitational force is responsible for the contraction of a black hole’s size of length almost to zero, then which force is responsible for the contraction of the entire width of the universe to zero, in case of light? </p> <p>Does anyone have a clue about it? Can anybody say what the cause is due to which light is spaceless and timeless?</p> <p> Part II</p> <p>I have already stated that we do not know the reason due to which light is spaceless and timeless. But, whatever may be the reason of this, it can be shown that this reason cannot lie within the space and time of the universe. </p> <p>Let us suppose that X is that reason and that X is within the universe. If X is not spaceless and timeless itself, then it is not possible for it to make another entity spaceless and timeless. So, X must have to be spaceless and timeless first, and then only it can make another entity spaceless and timeless. But, if X is also spaceless and timeless, then we will have to ask the same question about X that we were earlier asking about light: Being already placed within the space and time of the universe, how has it become spaceless and timeless? So, now we will have to search for the cause due to which X has become spaceless and timeless. Therefore, from this we can conclude that the cause due to which light is spaceless and timeless cannot lie within the space and time of the universe. It must lie outside any space and time. </p> <p>The only entity that we know of that lies outside any space and time is the source from which our known spacetime has emerged. The existence of this entity in nature has already been confirmed once physicists have declared that spacetime is emergent. So, here is one entity that is spaceless and timeless by default, and for which we need not have to seek any further cause due to which it has become spaceless and timeless, because we already know that it is not within any space and time. </p> <p>Now, if scientists can somehow show that this lifeless, mindless, and unconscious entity but that happens to be spaceless and timeless simply by default, can NATURALLY make another entity (aka light) spaceless and timeless, then this universe WILL NEVER NEED ANY GOD. </p> <p>However, if they fail to do so, then only we will be compelled to posit some sort of consciousness here, because it is possible for a conscious being only to know how it is spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>Science is the ultimate arbiter of truth and so, let science show that there is a natural explanation here. </p> <p>We will be waiting for that explanation.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/52" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Light</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/316" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Black Hole Singularity</a></li></ul></div> Mon, 01 Mar 2021 14:50:52 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 588 at /?q=node/588#comments Is there no evidence for God? /?q=node/569 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Recently an atheist has written that if there is a god and if this god affects our reality, then he would be a part of nature. So we will be able to measure the effects of this god in our reality, even if we cannot understand them. But until now we have not measured anything attributable to such a god. </p> <p>But it is definitely not true that we have not measured anything attributable to such a god. So I have to present my argument to him as to why I think his contention regarding this is not true. Below it is: </p> <p>God is not only described as omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent, but also as spaceless and timeless. So, if there is such a God, then there would be a permanent state of spacelessness and timelessness along with the universe. If there is such a permanent state of spacelessness and timelessness, then space and time cannot be absolute. For space and time to be absolute, they should have the same values in each and every case without any exception. But if there is such a permanent state, then in one particular case space and time would have null values and in every other case they would have non-zero values. In this way they would become relative. Scientists have also found that space and time are indeed relative.</p> <p>Here comes another atheist who says that if God is spaceless, then nowhere does he exist and that if he is timeless then at no time does he exist. So if I cannot show it exists, then they have good reason not to believe it exists. </p> <p>In reply I have to write to him that whatever exists within the universe exists within the space and time of the universe. But can we say within which space and time the universe as a whole exists? </p> <p>And I have to explain to him in detail as to why this cannot be said about the universe that it is within any space and time. This is because although we know very well that the universe is expanding, yet as per the cosmologists the truth is that it is not expanding into anything, which means the universe as a whole is not embedded within any higher space and time. Although this universe is not within any space and time, yet for that reason we do not say that the universe does not exist. </p> <p>I also gave him something to think over.</p> <p>Thought for the day: We know that space and time are relative. But have we ever asked from when they were relative? Were they relative from the very beginning of their existence? If so, then the cause due to which they were relative must already be present there before the beginning of space and time, that is, before the beginning of the universe. </p> <p>But if we say that this cause is within the universe only and not outside of it, then space and time would only be relative from the moment this cause would make its first appearance within the universe. Before that space and time would remain absolute. </p> <p>But this does not convince him at all and so he says that he is still waiting for any evidence of this God. As per him even after for more than 2000 years of God-talk, still there is no evidence. </p> <p>So I have to repeat to him that I have already shown how the presence of a spaceless and timeless God would make space and time relative in our universe and that scientists have also found that space and time are indeed relative. </p> <p>Then again I show him how his argument that God does not exist because he is not within any space and time has already been defeated, because if it is asserted that God does not exist on this ground only, then for that very same reason we will also have to assert that the universe does not exist, because as per the cosmologists neither is the universe within any space and time. And if in one case we admit that the universe exists but if in another case we refuse to admit the same for God, then that will only show that we are using some sort of double standard which is not a very good thing to promote or support. </p> <p>I have also shown which problem might arise if the existence of this God is denied, because in that case there would be a period during which space and time would remain absolute. </p> <p>I have also written that scientists are the only persons who can specifically say whether space and time were relative from the very beginning of their existence, or whether there was a brief period during which they were absolute. However, if it is true that they were relative from the very beginning, then the cause due to which they were relative must predate the beginning of the universe. </p> <p>And I have to write to him that up to this I have made my point very clear.</p> <p>This time the atheist becomes silent.</p> <p>So the conclusion that can be drawn from the above discussion is this: If space and time are relative from the very beginning of their existence, then the cause due to which they are relative must be prior to the beginning of the universe.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/87" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Relativity of space and time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li></ul></div> Fri, 05 Oct 2018 07:06:13 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 569 at /?q=node/569#comments Why total energy of the universe can never be other than zero /?q=node/568 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>In an earlier article ‘Is the total energy of the universe zero?’1 I have already shown as to why the total energy of the universe would be zero. But there is one deep metaphysical reason that surpasses all the earlier reasons, as to why this total energy can never be other than zero.</p> <p>In another article ‘Existence of anything can ultimately point to God’2 I have also shown that if anything exists at all then ultimately there would have to be something that would be neither in space nor in time, as otherwise there would be an infinite regress.</p> <p>So our starting point would be this: If anything exists, if even a single speck of dust exists, then ultimately there would have to be something that would be neither in space nor in time. </p> <p>Here it may be asked: why should we stop an infinite regress? There is one practical reason as to why we should stop it. If we decide that instead of stopping it we would rather go up to infinity, then we would never be able to reach this present moment from that infinite past moment, because infinite time is such that it can never be bridged. If infinite time can be bridged, then it is not an infinite time, rather a finite time only.</p> <p>There is one more reason as to why there cannot be an infinite regress of any natural cause. A natural cause (A) that can bring the universe into existence through one step (cause and effect) only is more efficient than the natural cause (B) that would require at least two steps for doing the same. Conversely we can say that B is less efficient than A, because B requires two steps whereas in a similar situation A requires one step only. So a natural cause that would require infinite number of steps for bringing the universe into existence would be infinitely less efficient than A. A cause that is infinitely less efficient has practically zero efficiency, because inverse of infinity is zero. A cause that has zero efficiency cannot bring anything into existence, not to say a universe. </p> <p>[The truth that there can never be an infinite regress because no causal chain can extend up to infinity can be called “Truth of all truths”, because from this basic truth other truths can be derived.] </p> <p>So our conclusion is this: Ultimate reality – whatever that ultimate reality may be - can never be within any space and time. Ultimate reality is that reality beyond which there would be absolutely nothing.</p> <p>Ultimate reality will be thus spaceless and timeless. Being spaceless and timeless it cannot be material. This is as per GR. GR has shown that space, time and matter are interlinked. So either all the three of them would be there together or none of them would be there. As ultimate reality is not within any space and time so there would be only the ultimate reality and no space and time. As there would be no space and time, so the ultimate reality cannot be material.</p> <p>Ultimate reality being thus immaterial its total energy would be zero. This is because matter and energy are equivalent and so, zero matter would mean zero energy.</p> <p>As ultimate reality is the source from which everything has originated, so the total energy of the universe would also be zero, because universe cannot have more energy than the source from which it has originated.</p> <p>However, the above does not give us the reason as to why the total energy of the universe should be zero; rather we have to find out merely by observation that its total energy is zero, because by observation only we can come to know that space, time and matter are interlinked. But if we assume that the universe has been created by a supernatural agent, then we will get that ultimate reason as to why its total energy cannot be other than zero. This has already been explained by me here.3 However I will very briefly repeat my arguments here.</p> <p>1) God being the creator would be prior to the creation of the universe;</p> <p>2) Universe primarily means its space, time, matter and energy;</p> <p>3) As God is prior to the creation of energy, so God cannot contain any energy;</p> <p>4) So neither the universe can contain any energy, because universe cannot have more energy than the source from which it has originated. </p> <p>I have already said it earlier4 and again I am saying it here that only a created universe gives us at least one particular reason as to why its total energy cannot be other than zero. But an uncreated universe gives us absolutely no reason why its total energy should also be zero. </p> <p>This also shows as to why space and time can neither be fundamental, because the source from which space and time have originated does not contain any space and time.</p> <p>Now we can summarize the whole thing:</p> <p>1) There can never be an infinite regress, because in that case ultimately nothing would exist;</p> <p>2) But we know something exists;</p> <p>3) So we must stop this infinite regress by any means whenever and wherever we will encounter such a regress;</p> <p>4) But in order to stop this infinite regress we would have to posit the existence of a spaceless and timeless entity that would stop this regress;</p> <p>5) Denying the existence of this spaceless and timeless entity would mean we are admitting there is an infinite regress;</p> <p>6) That would further mean we are admitting nothing exists;</p> <p>7) As it is contradictory to our experience that nothing exists, so we are ultimately compelled to admit that a spaceless and timeless entity also necessarily exists that stops the infinite regress;</p> <p>8) This spaceless and timeless entity is the ultimate reason why anything exists; </p> <p>9) Although it is the cause behind everything that exists, but itself it is not caused by anything;</p> <p>10) Being the ultimate reality, it would be the end-point of all existence. So there would be absolutely nothing beyond it that could have been the cause of it.</p> <p>Now this much is left for us to show as to whether this spaceless and timeless entity is also a conscious entity. </p> <p>Reference:<br /> 1. <a href=" /> 2. <a href=" /> 3. <a href=" /> 4. <a href="; </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/283" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Ultimate reality</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/104" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Energy</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/118" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Matter</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/284" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Infinite regresss</a></li></ul></div> Thu, 27 Sep 2018 06:36:40 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 568 at /?q=node/568#comments On Emergent Space-Time and the Existence of God /?q=node/563 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>In one YouTube comment thread one atheist has asked this question: ‘Who created the creator? Oh, what's that? The creator doesn't need a creator?' </p> <p>He has also written that if the creator doesn't need a creator, then that would be special pleading. He has also stated that if the creator doesn't need a creator then by extension the universe, which created us, also doesn't need one. So, why should we bother conjuring up an additional step? He has also asked: is it turtles all the way?</p> <p>Here I enter in the thread.</p> <p>Me to Atheist:<br /> ‘'Who created the creator? Oh, what's that? The creator doesn't need a creator?' </p> <p>‘You do not know the answer yet? Are you so backdated? </p> <p>[Then I have given him the reference to my article If God created universe, Who created God?1] </p> <p>‘There it has been shown that God is a bunch of several zeroes and that zero needs no creation.’</p> <p>The Atheist then asks me as to whether I did even read what he said? He also writes that my response was already preemptively addressed, because if god doesn’t need a creator, then the universe also doesn't need a creator, so why should I bother conjuring up an additional step?</p> <p>Me to Atheist:<br /> God does not need a creator because it can be shown and it has actually been shown that God is a bunch of several zeroes. Can anybody show that the universe is also a bunch of several zeroes and so universe would also need no creation?</p> <p>The Atheist here replies that zeroes can't create anything, because it has been shown that anything multiplied by 0 equals 0. He also writes that if god doesn't need a creator, the same applies to the universe.</p> <p>Me to Atheist:<br /> ‘Universe would not need any creator if it can be shown that everything in this universe, including its origin also, can be explained by natural means without invoking any outside agent. But the question is: can it be explained in that way? Below is just one problem:</p> <p>‘One person in one YouTube comment thread has written that the universe is still nothing, because there is as much energy as there is negative energy; so: Energy + - Energy = 0. So basically we still are where we started; the universe is just a more complicated state of nothing. </p> <p>‘My reply to him was this: </p> <p>‘If the universe is still nothing, then that will mean that initially the universe was nothing and that it has still remained nothing, because its total energy has always remained zero. </p> <p>‘But when initially the universe was nothing, it was not that only its energy was zero. Its space, time and matter were also zero. So if the universe still remains nothing, then why should it be that only its total energy remains zero but not its total space-time? What is the logic behind that? </p> <p>‘So, if the universe still remains nothing, then not only the total energy, but the total space-time of this ever-expanding universe must also always remain zero. </p> <p>‘But have the scientists like Krauss, Hawking and others provided any explanation as to how this total space-time always remains zero?’</p> <p>This time The Atheist does not reply. Not getting any reply from him I write to him again.</p> <p>Me to Atheist:<br /> ‘I have mentioned just one problem, but there are other problems also. No scientist can answer whence appeared those quantum mechanical laws without which no cosmological model is complete. In that sense quantum mechanical laws have the same status as that of the theistic God; origin of both remains unexplained and mysterious. However the question ‘who created God?’ can be answered and it has already been answered. Whereas the question ‘who created quantum mechanical laws?’ has not yet been answered. </p> <p>‘Then there is the fine-tuning problem. There are about 30 numbers within the laws of physics that include the masses of the elementary particles and the strengths of the fundamental forces, the values of which cannot be predicted by any scientific laws. Rather scientists have to find their values from actual experiments only. If these numbers have slightly different initial values at the big bang, then the world, and life as we know it, would probably never have come into being. </p> <p>‘The question is: why do these numbers have the values that they have? At present scientists cannot answer this question from within their known physics and they resort to multiverse hypothesis for its explanation. But up till now there is no direct experimental evidence that there are other universes beyond our universe and so at present multiverse has remained a theoretical probability only. But there are some scientists within the scientific community who think that even if multiverse is real, yet multiverse will not help us solve any single problem within our universe, because physics in each and every member of the multiverse would be the same as that of our universe. </p> <p>‘So long scientists will not be able to solve these problems, their claim that the universe does not need any God will not be trustworthy. </p> <p>‘You have written that zero cannot create anything. If zero does not have any power to create anything, then how has zero energy created such a vast universe?’</p> <p>This time The Atheist gives a reply that first of all I need to actually demonstrate such a god. But as because I am saying god has been "demonstrated to be zeroes", which doesn't make any sense, so he is willing to bet that I have been duped into some hippie kool-aid. He also writes that he would suggest actually thinking for a moment who is more likely to have analyzed these things more rigorously, the guy that said god is a sequence of zeroes, who probably hasn't achieved anything in his whole life in regards to his career as a professional, or the elite scientists in the history of the world from around every country that have granted us literally every piece of technology we see around us today.</p> <p>What follows is my final reply to The Atheist:<br /> ‘I have requested you to go through the article If God created universe, Who created God?1 But you have not gone through it. So I will quote here the first paragraph of that article before proceeding further: </p> <p>‘‘Earlier it was impossible for us to give any satisfactory answer to this question. But modern science, rather we should say that Einstein has made it an easy task for us. And Stephen Hawking has provided us with the clue necessary for solving this riddle. Actually scientists in their infinite wisdom have already kept the ground well-prepared for us believers so that one day we can give the most plausible and logically consistent answer to this age-old question.’ </p> <p>‘The purpose of quoting this passage here is to show that the same elite scientists that have granted us literally every piece of technology we see around us today have also prepared the path for us believers so that we can argue for the existence of God. </p> <p>‘Now let us first see what would be the attributes of a creator God. </p> <p>[Then I have repeated the same argument here that I have given in the article One True God2 for showing how it can be concluded that a creator God would always be spaceless, timeless and immaterial.]</p> <p>‘So as per logic a creator God must necessarily have to be spaceless and timeless, because this is the one and the only one logically possible consequence of being the creator of a universe.</p> <p>‘Now let us see how believers have described their God. About the supernatural God it has been said that he is omnipotent, omniscient and omnipresent. About the same God it has also been said that he is spaceless, timeless, changeless, immortal, all-pervading, one, unborn, uncreated, without any beginning, without an end, everlasting, non-composite and immaterial.</p> <p>‘So it can in no way be denied that God has been described as spaceless and timeless by the believers. </p> <p>‘Now let us see what science has done here. Science has also given its full support to this logical concept of a creator God by showing as to how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>[Then I have repeated the same argument here that I have given in the article If God created universe, Who created God?1 for showing how a spaceless and timeless state would obtain.]</p> <p>‘So it can in no way be denied that science has shown how it is possible to be spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>‘Now let us ask ourselves this question: why has science done this? If God is purely imaginary and non-existent, then why is it that science has provided such explanations for the attributes of a purely imaginary and non-existent God? What shall we have to conclude from this? Shall we have to conclude that those highly intelligent persons who have provided these explanations were not intelligent at all and that that was the reason as to why they failed to distinguish between what was actually real and what was purely imaginary? Or shall we have to conclude that this God is objectively real?</p> <p>‘Not only that. Phenomenon of quantum entanglement has compelled the scientists to conclude that space and time are not fundamental at all and that space and time have emerged from something more fundamental that is spaceless and timeless. Here are two relevant quotes:</p> <p>‘“If there were a dividing line between the quantum and the classical worlds, we could use the space and time of the classical world to provide a framework for describing quantum processes. But without such a dividing line—and, indeed, without a truly classical world—we lose this framework. We must explain space and time as somehow emerging from fundamentally spaceless and timeless physics…Many physicists, such as Stephen Hawking of the University of Cambridge, think that relativity theory must give way to a deeper theory in which space and time do not exist. Classical spacetime emerges out of quantum entanglements through the process of decoherence.” (Vlatko Vedral, Living in a quantum world, Scientific American, June 2011) </p> <p>‘“Indeed, a number of serious physicists have for some time by now stated that our usual perception of TIME is wrong, due to the fact that TIME, as much as SPACE, are NOT fundamental entities in Physics, but ONLY ... epiphenomena arising from OTHER yet more fundamental entities ...” (Personal e-mail to me) </p> <p>‘We have already seen that God is described as spaceless and timeless. And we now see that scientists are also saying that space and time have somehow emerged from fundamentally spaceless and timeless physics. </p> <p>‘So, if there is indeed a God, then at the beginning of everything there would be an entity that would be spaceless and timeless. Scientists have not yet admitted that there is a God. But they have at least admitted this much that space and time are not fundamental entities at all and that the more fundamental entity from which they have emerged is indeed spaceless and timeless.’</p> <p>Addendum: Has anybody ever thought that if it is true that space and time are not fundamental entities in Physics, but only epiphenomena arising from other yet more fundamental entities, then at the same time it might not be true that the universe has originated from nothing? If space and time are emergent entities only (epiphenomena) arising from other yet more fundamental entities, then were they emergent also when they made their first appearance at the beginning of the universe? Or, were they fundamental entities at that time? If we claim that they have originated from nothing at the beginning of the universe, then they were fundamental entities at the beginning, simply because they have originated from nothing and not from those yet more fundamental entities. If they were fundamental entities at the beginning, then how and when did they become emergent by losing their fundamental nature? However, if they were emergent at the beginning also, then would they not require the prior presence of those fundamental entities from which only they could arise? Being epiphenomena arising from other yet more fundamental entities, was it possible for them to arise from nothing? </p> <p>If my above argument is correct, then it cannot be the case that the universe has originated from nothing, but from those fundamental entities from which only space and time can emerge. That means all those hypotheses that try to explain the origin of the universe from nothing are all false hypotheses only.</p> <p>That space and time are emergent would also have two more implications. It would imply that those fundamental entities from which space and time have emerged cannot be within any space and time and it would also imply that they cannot be material. They cannot be within any space and time simply because space and time have emerged from them and therefore there was no space and time prior to the emergence of space and time. Being thus spaceless and timeless they would also be immaterial. This is because GR has shown that space, time and matter are so interlinked that when there would be matter, there would be space and time as well. So, if those fundamental entities were material, then there would also be space and time along with those material entities. In that case there would already be space and time prior to the emergence of space and time, which is an absurdity. </p> <p>However it has already been shown that there can be only one single entity in spaceless and timeless condition.3 It means that the entity from which the universe has originated is spaceless, timeless and immaterial.</p> <p>Theistic belief has two parts. In one part theists hold that life, mind and consciousness were already there before the beginning of the universe, because before the beginning there was God and God is life, mind and consciousness itself. In the second part they hold that there was no space and time before the beginning, because before the beginning there was God and that God is spaceless and timeless. So as per the theistic belief life, mind and consciousness are fundamental, because they were already there before the beginning of anything, but space and time are not, because there was no space and time before the beginning. Up till now scientists have refused to acknowledge that the first part of the religious belief is true and they still hold that life, mind and consciousness are emergent entities only. But forced by the circumstances scientists have been driven to the conclusion that the second part of the religious belief is essentially true, that space and time are not fundamental, but emergent only. </p> <p>I hope within some fifty or hundred years from now on scientists will be again driven to the conclusion, and this time also they will be forced by the circumstances only, that life, mind and consciousness are indeed fundamental and not emergent.</p> <p>Once it is admitted by the scientists that space-time is not fundamental, but emergent, now all the atheistic nonsenses can be very easily countered.</p> <p>Reference:<br /> 1. <a href=" /> 2. <a href=" /> 3. <a href="; </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/145" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Big Bang</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/257" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Phenomenon of Quantum Entanglement</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-7" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-8" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/157" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Multiverse</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-9" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/220" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Lawrence Krauss</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-10" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/96" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Stephen Hawking</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-11" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/258" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Vlatko Verdal</a></li></ul></div> Fri, 04 May 2018 13:42:25 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 563 at /?q=node/563#comments Atheist Using Double Standard for Ascertaining Truth /?q=node/558 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Recently I have some communications with an atheist.</p> <p>He has written that there is a magic


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11Prompt - God /?q=taxonomy/term/123 en When Can Science Say It Doesn't Need God? /?q=node/607 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>In a post on a Facebook discussion forum, a commenter wrote: "All I know is that there is no place for God in any scientific theory." The response I gave him is provided here:</p> <p>“You know this much, but you do not know the whole story. Scientists do not pay much attention to philosophers, but they highly respect one philosopher, and that philosopher is Hume. He stated that we cannot leap to the conclusion, based on a limited number of past observations, that what happened in the past will continue to happen in the future. No matter how many times we have seen 'A' happen in the past, we have always seen 'B' follow immediately after 'A'. From this, we cannot draw the conclusion that every time we see 'A' happen in the future, we will see 'B' follow 'A'. In the future, it could very well happen that 'A' is observed, but 'B' does not follow 'A'.</p> <p>“You wrote that there is no place for God in any scientific theory. It is true that, until now, science has not needed God. However, you cannot use your current knowledge to prophesy that science will never need God in the future. You are not an astrologer or a fortune-teller that you can make such a prediction—or that even if you do make a prediction, it will turn out to be completely accurate.</p> <p>“Only if science can one day explain everything from the origin of the universe to everything that has happened, is happening, and will happen in this universe, without bringing in an imaginary God, can science confidently claim that it has no need for God.</p> <p>“However, if it is ultimately found that there remains a gap somewhere in the scientific explanation, and despite thousands of years of effort, that gap cannot be filled by any scientific explanation, then questions will begin to arise about whether what science has assumed as an axiom until now is actually true. Science assumes that it does not need to go outside of nature to explain the world. That very assumption of science will then be called into question.</p> <p>“German scientist Sabine Hossenfelder wrote in one of her blog posts that it might take one thousand years to get answers to all of science's questions. It would be wise to wait until then.”</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/347" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Hume</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/328" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Sabine Hossenfelder</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/348" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Scientific explanation</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/133" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Origin of the Universe</a></li></ul></div> Sat, 20 Jun 2026 18:16:40 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 607 at /?q=node/607#comments Scientists have failed to invalidate believers' claim /?q=node/606 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Scientists are now saying that spacetime is not fundamental and that it has emerged from something non-spatiotemporal. The word non-spatiotemporal is the adjective form of no spacetime. That means as per scientists the source from which spacetime has emerged is not within any spacetime. As nothing can exist without spacetime, so the source from which spacetime has emerged can be called the source of all existence. And this source of all existence is not within any spacetime.</p> <p>Believers say that God is spaceless and timeless and that this God is the source of all existence. So, as per the believers, the source of all existence is not within any space and time. </p> <p>So, both believers and non-believers are saying the same thing that the source of all existence cannot lie within any spacetime. </p> <p>Now, somebody may argue that ‘non-spatiotemporal’ and ‘spaceless and timeless’ are two separate terms and that they do not indicate the same thing. But this argument will be a bad argument. Because although scientists are using the terms spacetime and non-spatiotemporal, yet in practice they are treating space and time as two separate entities. They are also using two different symbols for these two entities space and time. </p> <p>So, it is quite immaterial as to whether we say that the source of all existence is not within any spacetime, or that it is not within any space and time. </p> <p>Therefore, from all this above we can conclude that scientists have failed to invalidate the believers’ claim that the source of all existence cannot lie within any spacetime.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/259" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spacetime</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/269" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Non-spatiotemporal</a></li></ul></div> Fri, 05 Jun 2026 08:27:29 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 606 at /?q=node/606#comments Is God omnipotent and omniscient? /?q=node/605 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>I made a post like this on my Facebook page: "There is a creator of this universe—from this, can we conclude that the creator is omniscient and omnipotent?" </p> <p>In the comment section of that post, a Facebook friend wrote that if I had faith in the Upanishads, I would say that the creator of the world is omnipresent. There is no point in His created world where He is not present! He exists, or His influence is active, at every point in spacetime. </p> <p>I wrote back to him: "I made this post because atheists usually assume God to be omniscient and omnipotent and then try to demonstrate what logical fallacies arise if God possesses these two attributes. By pointing out these fallacies, they arrive at the conclusion that the existence of an omniscient and omnipotent God is practically impossible. There is a huge loophole in this logic, which I hadn't been able to catch all this time. Today, I suddenly did. So, this can be considered a true breakthrough. </p> <p>“Let me explain the whole thing a bit. We know a world exists. Those of us who believe in the existence of God say that this world has a creator. However, from the premise that 'this world has a creator,' one cannot conclude that the creator is omniscient and omnipotent. The creator of the world must definitely possess as much knowledge and power as is required to create a world. But that does not mean the creator has to be omniscient and omnipotent. Therefore, by incorrectly assuming the world-creator to be omniscient and omnipotent, and then showing all the logical fallacies that those concepts give rise to, one cannot claim that God does not exist. Yet, atheists have been doing exactly this for a long time. </p> <p>“Of course, the entire blame for this cannot be placed on the atheists. If blame must be placed on anyone, it should be placed on those who attributed these 'Omni-characteristics' to God in the first place.”</p> <p>Then the Facebook friend replied that he has understood. My logic is correct. He has heard this kind of talk from atheists before. Then he gave an example: If God is omnipotent, can He create a stone so heavy that He Himself cannot lift it! He then mentioned that his previous comment, however, spoke of Omnipresence, not Omnipotency. </p> <p>I wrote back to him: "In India, Brahman is described as *Nirguna* (without attributes) and *Nirupadhika* (without qualifications). No attribute, no qualification can be imposed on Brahman. Yet, in the religions originating from the Middle East, attributes and characteristics were imposed on God one after another. And incidentally, modern science was born in a part of the world where all the influence and dominance belonged to a religion originating from the Middle East. Therefore, it became very convenient for atheists to use modern science to shatter the core narrative of that religion into pieces." </p> <p>I then again commented: “Atheists do not talk much about omnipresence; the main targets of their attack are God's omniscience and omnipotence.”</p> <p>Later, I made another post on my Facebook page: "All the criticisms atheists have made against God to date, by assuming God to be omniscient and omnipotent, have become hollow from today onward."</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/346" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Brahman</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/155" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Omnipotent</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/156" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Omniscient</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/181" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Omnipresent</a></li></ul></div> Fri, 05 Jun 2026 05:45:44 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 605 at /?q=node/605#comments A Falsehood spread about God /?q=node/604 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>For many years, scientists have been propagating a falsehood about God. That falsehood is as follows: "The God-hypothesis does not predict anything that can be tested," or "The God-hypothesis does not have any observational consequences."</p> <p>But I showed back in 2001 that this is entirely false. I demonstrated that the God-hypothesis can predict something that has been tested and verified. I showed that if, at the very beginning of the universe, there existed a spaceless and timeless entity (God has always been described this way), then due to the presence of such a spaceless and timeless being, the values of space and time must necessarily be relative — and science has indeed shown that the values of space and time are relative.</p> <p>Because God is spaceless and timeless, the values of space and time in relation to God are absolutely zero. But in all other cases, the values of space and time are non-zero. Therefore, the values of space and time must be relative.</p> <p>However, this cannot be considered definitive proof of God's existence, because God's consciousness cannot be proven in this way. Even if, instead of God, there existed a spaceless and timeless unconscious entity, the values of space and time would still be relative.</p> <p>Scientists who are working on quantum gravity are now saying that space and time cannot be fundamental — they are emergent. If scientists ultimately conclude that space-time is emergent, it would mean that the source from which space-time emerged cannot itself be located within space-time, since space-time did not exist before its own emergence.</p> <p>And since nothing can exist without space-time, the source from which space-time originated can be identified as the root of all existence — and that source must be spaceless and timeless. Although scientists are not calling it "spaceless and timeless"; instead, they are calling it non-spatiotemporal.</p> <p>If scientists continue down the path they are currently on, they will eventually arrive not at a spaceless and timeless conscious being at the beginning of the universe, but rather at a non-spatiotemporal unconscious entity.</p> <p>However, I showed as early as 2012 that such an unconscious entity must possess consciousness — otherwise, the spacelessness and timelessness of light cannot be explained in any way.</p> <p>So there's no need for atheists to worry about proving God's existence. They can simply go on spreading the same falsehood — that "God-hypothesis does not predict anything."1</p> <p>Footnote:<br /> 1. Translated from Bengali with the help of ChatGPT.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/161" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Scientists</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/345" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">ChatGPT</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/109" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spacelessness</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/110" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timelessness</a></li></ul></div> Wed, 21 May 2025 12:42:01 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 604 at /?q=node/604#comments On Reincarnation /?q=node/602 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>A few years back I wrote some articles whose title was this: My encounter with God. In one of those articles I wrote the following which was mainly about my paranormal experiences:</p> <p>Did I hope that these paranormal phenomena would help me prove the existence of God? Yes, I did. This is because I myself possessed, and still posses, one paranormal ability. If “somewhere in this world somebody is going to die”, then I will have a premonition of his/her death days before, and sometimes in one or two rare occasions, even months before, the occurrence of such death. I cannot exactly say who is going to die, but I can with absolute certainty say that very soon I am going to receive the death-news of someone with whom I even may not have any blood-relation at all. Here there are three circles within which such deaths can occur: 1) Family circle, 2) friends circle and 3) last but not the least, the celebrity circle. These celebrities may be local, regional, national, or even international. The only criterion that is applicable in each case here is that the death-news of the person must have to reach me somehow. Now I must explain how I come to know beforehand that “somewhere in this world somebody is going to die”. There are some common symptoms. One such symptom is that suddenly my mood will become off. I will lose all the positive meanings of life. I will lose interest in everything. Everything of this life will seem to me an illusion, a Maya. Whatever I do at present, whatever I propose to do in future, appear to me as nothing but vanity. “Vanity of vanities, all is vanity”. When this mood comes heavily on me, I become dead sure that somewhere on earth somebody is going to draw his/her last breath very soon. Then one day again everything will become normal, and I will again find that life is worth living. And I will then get the news of someone’s death either through the newspaper, or maybe over phone, or by some other means, depending on within which circle such death has actually occurred. Another common symptom is that during those days my throat will be choked. It will become extremely difficult for me to utter even a single word. I will feel in those days that if I try to talk to someone, then I will definitely begin to cry. So when it becomes urgently necessary to talk to others, I have to suppress this propensity to cry with some tremendous effort and then only I can speak out. And this constant urge to weep will always be there. I will not understand why I am so prone to weeping. But when I will get the death-news of someone, everything will be clear to me. </p> <p>Then there is another symptom, the most mysterious of the three. I will feel as if I have been transported somehow in another time, in another century that has long been lost. This time is not the present time, but another time of some bygone century, long, long ago lost from the surface of the earth. The people that I am seeing around me are also not of this present world, but they are all from that lost world. The road I am trotting is also of that lost world. I will feel as if I am in a world that was here on earth many, many centuries ago, but that has gone forever. Thus there will be a veil of unreality over everything surrounding me. When I will have this feeling, I will again know with certainty that “somewhere in this world somebody is going to die”. Although in the first two cases the suffering I have to go through is simply unbearable, still I must have to confess here that when I do have this particular type of experience, I relish it very much. This is because if one can see this present world as an already lost world of some bygone century, then nothing can be more mysterious than that. Physicists may not agree here, but I think this experience is equivalent to some sort of time-travel, because I am seeing this present century as a bygone century. As if my consciousness has somehow gone many centuries ahead of time, and from there it is seeing this present century retrospectively as a long-lost century. If this is not time-travel, then what is time-travel? During such an experience my wife appeared to me so distant in time that it seemed as if she was from some pre-historic period. So I was seeing a woman of some pre-historic age just in front of me! Although it was only an appearance, because it could not be real in any way, still her whole bodily appearance as a woman of some pre-historic century seemed very much real to me.</p> <p>2<br /> But several times it happened that none of these three signs were met, but some death occurred somewhere in this world. What happened in all those cases was this: several times I felt as if I was going to die, but in the end it turned out that I had not died at all, but someone else had died somewhere else. That is, in all these cases my feeling that I was going to die was an indication of someone else's death somewhere else. This feeling that I was about to die, was once so intense that at that time I was filled with lamentation at the thought of my impending death. At that time I was so sure of my death that I was deeply broken inside thinking what would be the helpless condition of my wife and daughter after my death. My wife is sick, and my daughter is still immature, and she hasn't finished her college yet. How will my wife manage the family with her sick body, how will she do the daily marketing or solve other problems of the family, and how will she raise her daughter? I can still well remember how I lamented that I could not fulfill the minimum duty of establishing my daughter in life before my death, before I had to leave this world, leaving both of them quite helpless. After spending three days in lamentation in this way, finally on the fourth day I was shown a vision. That day was Monday, the time would be a little before or after 12 noon. I was going north from the southern room of the ground floor, and had just advanced a foot or two into the middle room, when I saw the scene before my eyes. A human vagina floated in the air in front of me, and what I saw with my naked eyes was this: something whitish was moving from my forehead towards that vagina. This incident happened in the year 2009.</p> <p>After this terrible experience, I spent several days in a state of obsession, I was in a daze for those few days. Then one day after the rush passed, I was going somewhere by bus. On the bus, I was thinking what God is trying to tell me by showing me this scene? Does God mean that after death man re-enters the mother's womb? Is she reborn again? However, a case-by-case analysis leads to the same conclusion. That is why for the first few days I had a strong feeling that I was about to die. During these few days I never for a moment doubted that I might not die, I was so sure of my death. Then I was shown entering the mother's womb. All this means only one thing: after death, man re-enters the mother's womb, is reborn. That is, by giving this experience, God gave me the message that there is rebirth. </p> <p>3<br /> Case 1: Here is an incident from my daughter's childhood. My daughter started going to school when she was only 2 years and 11 months old. This incident happened before she started going to school. One day suddenly it appeared that she started speaking in a completely unknown foreign language. After speaking in an unknown language for some time in this way she would sometimes stop on her own, then start again the next day. It went on like this for a long time. Her fluency in this unknown foreign language started as suddenly as one day, and stopped suddenly one day. I couldn't understand a single word of what she was saying, nor did anyone else in the house seem to. I was once a member of a film club, and because of that I have seen films from many countries around the world, I have heard the languages of many countries by ear. Based on that experience I can say that the language my daughter spoke at that time was not an Indian language; neither was it Chinese, Japanese, Arabic, or Urdu; neither was it English, French, German, or Italian; most likely it was Spanish or Portuguese. But there's no way to say for sure, since I never once tried to record her words on tape in that unknown language. When my daughter was only a few months old, I recorded her crying on tape, but I don't know why the thought of recording her words in this unknown foreign language never once crossed my mind. But now I realize what a fatal mistake I have made, for I have thereby lost a great evidence of reincarnation, perhaps forever. If the words she uttered at that time were caught on tape, later attempts could be made to find out what language it was, whether the words she uttered had any meaning at all, and if indeed they had any meaning at all, was it really possible for her to know that language at that age, and if it was really impossible, how could she speak it so fluently? But by not having her words on tape, I missed out of all this forever, and what's the point in wailing like a fool now? It was impossible for my daughter to speak another language at that age, and it was even more impossible to speak that language continuously, because how was it possible for her to know another language at that age? The only possible explanation for this phenomenon is that maybe for a few days she regained the memories of her previous birth, during which time she spoke the language of her previous birth. But as soon as that memory was lost, her speaking in that unknown language suddenly stopped one day. </p> <p>Case 2: Another such case came to my knowledge from the son of my borther-in-law. His only son spoke only in Hindi from the time he learned to speak until he was two-and-a-half years old and could not be fed anything but dal and roti till that age of two-and-a-half years. The elders used to say among themselves that the boy must have been a Bihari (a resident of Bihar Province of India) in his previous birth, hence his speaking in Hindi and eating dal and roti. Later, however, both his habits gradually changed, he learned to speak Bengali and got used to Bengali food. But even here, no evidence can be adduced that he spoke Hindi and not Bengali, because no one ever thought of recording any samples of his speaking in Hindi. </p> <p>Of course, there is no reason to be so upset now that one or two pieces of evidence have been missed, because the future parents are there. My advice to them: If you find that your children when first learning to speak are speaking in a language that doesn't sound like any language you know, then without delay, arrange to capture their words on an Android phone first. Now that Android phones are almost in every household, there should be no difficulty in making audio-video recording. But make not one, but several audio-videos like that. Later, it will be examined whether the words they have uttered have any meaning or not. And that is how we must collect evidence of reincarnation, because without evidence atheists cannot be convinced of anything. Millions of babies are born in this world almost every day. The world's population is growing at a rate of nearly twenty million every year. So if a period of 100 years is considered, then in these 100 years, about two billion newborn babies will appear worldwide. If it is possible to observe a million children out of these two billion children in the next 100 years, and if these observations give us several thousand instances in which the child is seen speaking a language other than her mother tongue, then in the future the phenomenon of reincarnation could be established on a solid foundation. It would not be a difficult task at all. And when God has given me indication that there is rebirth, then there is definitely rebirth. Now all we have to do is gather evidence for reincarnation. And the way to collect this evidence can surely be understood from Case 1 and Case 2 described above. If a Bengali child is reincarnated after her death and born in a Bengali household, then she will speak Bengali after learning to speak in her childhood and there will be no indication that she has been reincarnated and born again in a Bengali household. But if a non-Bengali or a non-Indian is reincarnated in a Bengali household after her death, and if she is seen in her childhood speaking a language which does not sound like Bengali at all, then that can certainly be regarded as a proof of reincarnation. Finding a person who can remember the incidents of her previous birth may not be so easy, but I think the examples described in Case 1 and Case 2 can be found if properly searched. New babies are and will be appearing in the world every day. So we have plenty of time and opportunity to gather evidence for reincarnation.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/341" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Reincarnation</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/342" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Speaking in an unknown language</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/343" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Life after death</a></li></ul></div> Mon, 02 Sep 2024 11:32:45 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 602 at /?q=node/602#comments Natural-Supernatural /?q=node/598 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Thanks to scientists we now know that massless particles have some strange properties. Time stops completely in the case of massless particles, and massless particles do not have to travel any distance at all, as all distances in their case shrink to zero. For example, for massless particles the distance from one end of the universe to its other end is zero. So massless particles can be present at both ends of the universe at the same time. What are these properties of massless particles to be called? Are they to be called natural characteristics, or supernatural characteristics? If these are called natural features, a problem of some sorts will arise; Again, if these are called supernatural properties, then another kind of problem will arise. </p> <p> We all know that God is said to be timeless; It is also said about him that he can be present at both ends of the universe at the same time due to his omnipresence. God is also said to be a supernatural being. So it turns out that it has been said about a supernatural entity called God that it has just the same properties as those of massless particles. If God exists (here I am not saying that God exists, I am saying if God exists), and if we call these properties of massless particles natural properties, then the question that will naturally arise will be: how can a supernatural being have any natural properties? Supernatural beings are supposed to have supernatural characteristics only, how can supernatural beings have natural characteristics? Again, if we call these properties of massless particles supernatural properties, then this time the question will be: as science is supposed to deal with the natural world only, then how is it that science has also begun to deal with the supernatural as well? </p> <p> How can this problem be solved? It can be solved in this way: If God exists, then rather than calling him a supernatural being, it is better to acknowledge that God is also a part and parcel of this vast universe, and that he is not an entity outside of this universe, which is why natural science has a scientific explanation for his properties.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/333" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Omnipresence</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/334" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Massless Particles</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/158" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Natural</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/159" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Supernatural</a></li></ul></div> Sun, 23 Jul 2023 13:17:48 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 598 at /?q=node/598#comments A new argument for the relativity of space and time /?q=node/597 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>If there is a God, and if that God is omnipresent, then God being omnipresent will be present at each point of the universe at the same time. Let's assume for the sake of argument that the universe is infinite, so the distance from one end of the universe to its other end will also be infinite. But for God, this infinite distance will not remain an infinite distance, it will amount to zero distance, since God will be present at both ends of the universe at the same time. But to us human beings, this infinite distance will remain an infinite distance. So the question that will arise here is this: can the distance which is infinite for one being, be reduced to zero for another being? Again it takes an eternity to travel an infinite distance, which is true for us, but not true for God. The truth about God is that God would require no time, because that infinite distance will be zero for God. So here the pertinent question will be: can the amount of time that is an eternity for one being, be reduced to zero for another being? If Newton's theory were the last word of science, then scientists would answer both the above questions in the negative, because in Newton's theory both space and time are absolute. But science did not stop with Newton alone; Einstein came and changed the whole picture. In his theory, space and time are relative. Special theory of relativity has shown what is an infinite distance to us, becomes zero distance for massless particles; again, what is an eternity for us, becomes zero time for those particles. </p> <p> Therefore, if God exists, then space and time must be relative because God is omnipresent. And science has also shown that this is indeed the case.</p> <p> Here, one question may arise as to why only massless particles have these strange properties, and why not any other particle? This question can also be answered. Many years ago, in another of my writings (Who created God?), I have shown that if God is there, then that God will have zero mass, because the total energy of the universe is zero. God is massless, so it is quite natural and expected that only massless particles would manifest God's attributes and not other particles.</p> <p> Life is a big joke, brothers. I get this new argument when my age is 77.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/167" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Newton</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/168" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Einstein</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/332" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Relativity</a></li></ul></div> Wed, 08 Feb 2023 18:37:19 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 597 at /?q=node/597#comments Is mystical experience a hallucination? /?q=node/594 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>Mystics who have claimed that they have a direct vision of God<br /> have always described that God as spaceless and timeless. But mystical experiences have been discarded by secular-minded people as merely a hallucination. </p> <p>Here is a Medical Definition of Hallucination: A profound distortion in a person's perception of reality, typically accompanied by a powerful sense of reality. A hallucination may be a sensory experience in which a person can see, hear, smell, taste, or feel something that is not there. </p> <p>That means a person having a hallucinatory experience cannot have any knowledge about reality.</p> <p>Physicists in this 21st century are saying that spacetime is emergent. For example, theoretical physicist Sean Carroll who once wrote an article showing that God is not a good theory has recently published a book whose title is this: Something deeply hidden: quantum worlds and the emergence of spacetime. </p> <p>Spacetime is emergent means there is something more fundamental than spacetime from which spacetime has emerged. This something more fundamental than spacetime cannot be within any spacetime. That is because there cannot be any spacetime before its emergence. As it cannot be within any spacetime, so it will be spaceless and timeless. However, physicists describe this as non-spatiotemporal, a new scientific term that replaces old spaceless and timeless. Space and time were two different entities in the pre-relativistic era. In the post-relativistic one, they have become one single entity: spacetime. So physicists can no longer use the old term spaceless and timeless; instead, they use the new term non-spatiotemporal. </p> <p>That means physicists are now saying that there is something spaceless and timeless from which our known spacetime has emerged. </p> <p>Now, my question is: If mystics had seen only a hallucination, then how did they come to know that there was something spaceless and timeless long before physicists had come to know that? That is because, as per definition, a hallucination cannot give any knowledge about reality.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/143" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Mystics</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/144" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Hallucination</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/312" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Sean Carroll</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/121" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spaceless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/122" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Timeless</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-6" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/326" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Emergence of spacetime</a></li></ul></div> Sat, 07 Aug 2021 13:23:03 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 594 at /?q=node/594#comments Why Nature is red in Tooth and Claw /?q=node/593 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>In one YouTube comment thread, a person wrote the following: </p> <p>He had watched a documentary on animals and sea life. He was watching how vicious nature could be. Sharks were killing seals, and alligators were killing zebras that crossed the river, lions were killing their prey, and on and on. After seeing all these, he started thinking about whether God was also like this. If we look at nature, we will see things appear calm on the one hand, and on another, things look so chaotic. Was it that God also meant for everything to be as it was? People will be killing other people, and then there will be all the crime, sickness, poverty, starvation, suffering, etc.? If one thinks about it, it all happens in nature, and we humans are all part of nature. So, if this is God's nature as well, then we are all doomed! </p> <p>The following was my reply to him: </p> <p>There is an easy explanation for that. It was God’s method of family planning and birth control.</p> <p>Think of a situation when there were only herbivores on this planet and no carnivores to keep their numbers in check and balance. What would have happened after millions and millions of years? All these herbivores would have gone extinct due to an extreme food shortage; the earth would also have turned into a desert. In that situation, no new species could appear on earth.</p> <p>But God created this universe to bring someone in it with whom he would be able to communicate. So, to preserve the greens on earth, God had to adopt this cruel method. That is because man had not yet appeared on the scene at that period that could use their intelligence to invent an effective means of birth control for these herbivorous animals. </p> <p>Once man has appeared on earth, now all these carnivorous animals can go extinct. There is no need for any wildlife conservation for these carnivores.</p> </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/113" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Universe</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/322" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Nature</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/323" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Family Planning</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/324" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Birth Control</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/325" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Wild Life Preservation</a></li></ul></div> Fri, 23 Jul 2021 16:10:11 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 593 at /?q=node/593#comments In Defense of Emergent Spacetime /?q=node/591 <div class="field field-name-body field-type-text-with-summary field-label-hidden"><div class="field-items"><div class="field-item even" property="content:encoded"><p>My justification for writing this post is that only emergent spacetime can ultimately lead to God. So, we must defend it in every possible way.</p> <p>Recently, I have posted the following in one Facebook Discussion Group: </p> <p>'Physicists are now saying that spacetime is not fundamental but emergent, and it has emerged from something non-spatiotemporal.</p> <p>‘As we have come to know that spacetime is emergent, so some questions arise here that I am giving below:</p> <p>1) Was spacetime fundamental or emergent when the universe began to expand from the Big Bang?<br /> 2) If it was fundamental, then is there any scientific evidence in support of it?<br /> 3) If it was fundamental, how and when has it become emergent by losing its fundamental nature?<br /> 4) However, if it was emergent, would it not require the prior presence of something non-spatiotemporal from which only it could emerge?’</p> <p>In reply, a person commented that we have not come to know that. It is only a possibility that only a few theoreticians are investigating. These theoreticians have yet to extend it from 3D to 4D that is essential, and until they do, they cannot even start for the possible observation that might verify the speculation.</p> <p>But I think there is a reason why those physicists may not be entirely wrong who say that spacetime is emergent.</p> <p>In an earlier article1, I have shown that if anything exists at all, there would be something spaceless and timeless. That is because otherwise, there will be an infinite regress. Below, I am going to repeat the same article here, but with some modification.</p> <p>We can show by some simple logic that if anything exists at all, then either there will be an infinite regress or that there will be something spaceless and timeless that will stop that regress. </p> <p>Now let us start from the earth. Earth exists within the solar system.<br /> The solar system exists within the Milky Way galaxy.<br /> The Milky Way galaxy exists within the local cluster of galaxies.<br /> This cluster again exists within some super-cluster of galaxies.<br /> This super-cluster of galaxies exists within the universe that contains trillions of other galaxies.</p> <p>WHAT I AM GOING TO SAY NOW IS PURELY FOR THE SAKE OF BUILDING AN ARGUMENT ONLY. NOTHING IS ASSERTED HERE.</p> <p>The universe exists within the multiverse that contains trillions of other universes.<br /> This multiverse exists within some super-multiverse that contains trillions of other multiverses.<br /> This super-multiverse exists within some super-duper multiverse that contains trillions of other super-multiverses.<br /> This super-duper multiverse exists within some supra-multiverse that contains trillions of other super-duper multiverses.<br /> This supra-multiverse exists within some supra-dupra multiverse that contains trillions of other supra-multiverses.<br /> And in this way, this chain will go on up to infinity. </p> <p>However, if we want to stop the infinite regress, we would have to break the chain somewhere in the middle. We would have to stop at some level.</p> <p>If we decide that we would stop at the universe level, we would have to say that nothing is there beyond the universe. The universe as a whole would be neither in any space nor in any time. That is because there would be nothing outside the universe. </p> <p>If we stop at the multiverse level, we would have to say that the multiverse as a whole would be neither in any space nor at any time. That is because there would be nothing outside the multiverse. </p> <p>In each case, the entity being as a whole neither in space nor in time would be spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>So, the entity that will stop the infinite regress will always be spaceless and timeless. </p> <p>From above, we can conclude that if anything exists at all, then there would be two possibilities:<br /> 1) Possibility one: There would be an infinite regress;<br /> 2) Possibility two: There would be something spaceless and timeless that will stop that regress;</p> <p>I do not profess to know whether there is an infinite regress or no such regress. NOBODY KNOWS. However, if there is no such regress, then we can say that there was something spaceless and timeless at the beginning from which everything has originated. In that case, we cannot say that those physicists are wrong who are saying spacetime is emergent.</p> <p>Reference:<br /> 1) <a href="; </div></div></div><div class="field field-name-field-tags field-type-taxonomy-term-reference field-label-above clearfix"><h3 class="field-label">Tags: </h3><ul class="links"><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-0" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/123" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">God</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-1" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/53" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">space</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-2" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/54" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">time</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-3" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/259" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Spacetime</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-4" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/269" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Non-spatiotemporal</a></li><li class="taxonomy-term-reference-5" rel="dc:subject"><a href="/?q=taxonomy/term/145" typeof="skos:Concept" property="rdfs:label skos:prefLabel" datatype="">Big Bang</a></li></ul></div> Mon, 14 Jun 2021 14:05:06 +0000 Himangsu Sekhar Pal 591 at /?q=node/591#comments

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